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    Two Cochereau recordings

    First, an improvised symphony at St.Thomas church, New York, on November 9, 1970:

    And second, a rare recording of him at St-Roch, Paris, in 1954, i.e. a few months before his nomination at Notre-Dame:


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    These are absolutely wonderful to listen too, acc.

    Our thanks for sharing these performances of Cochereau with the organ community here .
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    Much better with images: PC improvises a sherzo in Notre-Dame.


    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F3qjajLDEIE

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    Well, I guess I'm one of those old-fashioned guys who believes that with music, what counts is what you hear. Besides, should the uploaders of those Cochereau recordings (especially the St-Roch rarity!) have refrained from sharing their treasures with the rest of us just because they're audio only? As far as I'm concerned, the answer is clearly: no!

    Anyway, as far as Cochereau videos go, this one is a real treat: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=23D8fl_TUXg

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    Quote Originally Posted by acc View Post
    Well, I guess I'm one of those old-fashioned guys who believes that with music, what counts is what you hear. Besides, should the uploaders of those Cochereau recordings (especially the St-Roch rarity!) have refrained from sharing their treasures with the rest of us just because they're audio only? As far as I'm concerned, the answer is clearly: no!

    Anyway, as far as Cochereau videos go, this one is a real treat: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=23D8fl_TUXg
    There are plenty of other sites to share music recordings than youtube !!Besides the sound quality is very often better on these websites!!

    Anyway, happy that you appreciate the videos I put on youtube!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thierry59 View Post
    There are plenty of other sites to share music recordings than youtube !!Besides the sound quality is very often better on these websites!!
    The audio quality of the Youtube items with video is not any better than that of the items without. So I guess the question of audio quality and the question of "audio+video vs. audio only" are really two separate questions.

    I also don't think that historical recordings such as the Cochereau St-Roch, or the BWV542 by Vierne and Dupré I mentioned recently, would benefit in any way from higher audio quality than the HQ Youtube currently offers — their purpose is elsewhere.

    Why not look at the bright side of things: I'm already very happy that someone has uploaded those gems at all.

    Another point is that no "audio only" site has a popularity that comes anywhere near that of Youtube. (Just look at postings on this very forum: whenever someone shares a link to a music file on the Internet, it's a Youtube link 99,9% of the time.) One possible reason for this popularity could be the interface, which is particularly flexible. I think we have now reached a point where it makes sense for anyone who has an interesting file (with or without video) to upload it to Youtube if he does not want it to go completely unnoticed...

    Of course, if there are any particular audio files on other sites that you find interesting and of good quality, then by all means: don't hesitate to share them with us!

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    Blabla.
    You don't understand my point.
    For example I share with music fans some abstracts without using youtube. tThere is nothing more frustrating than hearing a bad sound quality and no images of the organist playing on his instrument. The organ has become an almost unknown instrument since it is often played by amateurs hiden in dark churches...
    Mais brisons là!

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    First of all, I'm sorry to point out that dismissing what I say as "blabla" is, to put it mildly, not very helpful. I think Magle's forum has (so far) managed to conduct discussions in a civilized way, where people respect each other. It would be nice to keep it that way.

    Having said that, please rest assured that, although I may not share your point of view, I certainly understand it (those are two quite different things): to you, the level of acceptable audio quality depends on whether video footage is present; to me, it does not.

    Finally, since you mention sharing with music fans, I can only reiterate my previous suggestion: you are welcome to share your non-Youtube discoveries here, too!

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    a)Are you a music fan or a teacher (to put it mildly)??
    b)I don't frequently visit this forum so I am not sure to share anything with you.

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    #Well I enjoyed the audio recordings even if no video present as such. Most times you can not see the organist anyway unless you are very lucky. Of course as an organist I much preferred they couldn't see me most of the time except for some concerts on the main floor.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thierry59 View Post
    Much better with images: PC improvises a scherzo in Notre-Dame.


    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F3qjajLDEIE
    Ah yes - the lesson at Nôtre-Dame with Pierre Cochereau and Maurice Clerc (Titulaire de la Cathédrale de Dijon).

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    Quote Originally Posted by acc View Post
    First, an improvised symphony at St.Thomas church, New York, on November 9, 1970:

    And second, a rare recording of him at St-Roch, Paris, in 1954, i.e. a few months before his nomination at Notre-Dame:

    Thank you for these - they are excellent.

    I understand that often there is no video footage available but I am puzzled (since whoever upoaded the video to YouTube clearly possessed some pictures of Saint Thomas' Church, Fifth Avenue) as to why, at 00.00.51 there is a still photograph of Cochereau seated at the console of the organ at Dijon Cathedral....
    Pierre Cochereau rocked, man.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wljmrbill View Post
    Of course as an organist I much preferred they couldn't see me most of the time
    That reminds me of the story of an organist who gave a concert without realizing he was being filmed and projected onto a big screen in front of the audience. Since it was much hotter at the organ loft than downstairs, he took off his jacket after playing the first piece, his tie after the second, etc. After a while, he had taken off more than he probably should have, but the icing on the cake came when he eventually removed his false teeth and put them on the console in plain view of the camera!

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    Quote Originally Posted by pcnd5584 View Post
    I understand that often there is no video footage available but I am puzzled (since whoever upoaded the video to YouTube clearly possessed some pictures of Saint Thomas' Church, Fifth Avenue) as to why, at 00.00.51 there is a still photograph of Cochereau seated at the console of the organ at Dijon Cathedral....
    Well, I guess that if you don't have any pictures of Cochereau at St.Thomas, there are two ways of extending your supply: on one hand St.Thomas without Cochereau, and on the other hand Cochereau without St.Thomas.

    Mind you, this video is pretty striking, too: Dupré plays at St-Sulpice, but the picture shows him at Notre-Dame, while responding to this one, where Vierne plays at Notre-Dame, but with a picture showing him at the Wanamaker store in New York!

    Anyway, in such cases, I usually strip the audio from the downloaded video right away — takes up much less space on my hard drive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pcnd5584 View Post
    Ah yes - the lesson at Nôtre-Dame with Pierre Cochereau and Maurice Clerc (Titulaire de la Cathédrale de Dijon).
    Yes it is. Il also have the rest of the tv show including, in a first part, how to play a mvt of the 2nd of Vierne and in a second part certain advises on how to improvise a sherzo : Clerc improvises on a theme given by Cochereau and then the Master plays: this is the sequence visible on you yube. I'm afraid it is useless to put it on this website since there are only few people able to understand French!

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