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    Largest organ in Europe, not in a church

    Good morning!
    I'm trying to know wich is, in Europe, the largest organ in a concert hall. Some body knows?
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    I can't answer offhand, but if you put your question into a search engine (Google?), you should get an answer. Or simply put "largest pipe organs in Europe" and that should take care of it.

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    Perhaps Royal Albert Hall, London

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    Hello, welcome to the forum.

    I can't answer your question, but do try looking it up on the internet.


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    According to Wiki
    • The largest full mechanical organ in Europe is the main organ of the Laurenskerk Rotterdam (Netherlands) it has 85 stops and more than 7600 pipes and was build by Marcussen & Søn.
    • The Liverpool Cathedral Grand Organ is the largest pipe organ in the United Kingdom, with 10,268 pies.[7] It was built by Henry Willis & Sons, who also built the Royal Albert Hall Organ, the second largest in the United Kingdom.
    • The organs of the Duomo di Milano (Milan Cathedral). Their history begins in 1395 (the builder was Martino de' Stremidi), and the organs were repeatedly remodelled during subsequent centuries by major Italian builders including Valvassori, Antegnati, Serassi, and Tamburini, as well as some non-Italians such as Bernard d'Allemagna. The golden decoration dates from the 16th century. In 1986 the pipes, numbering about 16,000, were reorganised into two cases (north and south) with one console.

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    I just got the Priory recording of the Milano organ. Fun to listen to. The strings are gorgeous, beautiful Oboe and flutes, but the 32' Controbombardo, to my ears, had no impact. It just purrs. More like a Dulzian.

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    So Royal Albert Hall wins, yes?

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    Looking that way yes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Contratrombone64 View Post
    So Royal Albert Hall wins, yes?
    Very likely. In RAH's case, it's the volume. If there's another organ with more pipes, I don't think it's as powerful. Great Britain is probably the only place in Europe that has wind pressures that high. That has big tubas and other big chorus reeds. The organ at the RAH has these and big diapasons, and is the largest in a secular building within GB.

    This organ gets my vote.

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    smilingvox - Britain certainly has a fondnes for "hot air" and this is no exception in its organs, that's for sure.

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    The organ in Liverpool Cathedral has such a vast building that there is a Phoenix Electronic organ to cover the Nave
    http://www.phoenixorgans.co.uk/pdfs/...march-2005.pdf

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    Somewhere in an off-the-path place in Spain there is a six-manual job, but that doesn't necessarily mean it's the largest. Some builders seem to have a way of spreading the ranks and stops rather thinly among the divisions.

    Which brings up the fact that most Cavaille-Coll organs had rather small pedal divisions. Even St. Sulpice has twelve pedal stops, out of something like 103. They must depend on the "tirasses", or manual-to-pedal couplers. Of course, the big pedal pipes tend to cost the most, and take up the most space, so all that is understandable. But we all know that ideas about organ building change over time.

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    The Walcker Organ in Stockholm City Hall

    With its five manuals and 135 stops the City Hall Organ is one of the largest instruments of its kind in Europe.


    http://international.stockholm.se/To...ty-Hall-Organ/

    http://international.stockholm.se/To...Brief-history/

    http://international.stockholm.se/To...econstruction/
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    Hi smilingvox,

    If I may, please let me share that the hyper-symphonic organ in Liverpool Anglican Cathedral has a Tuba and a Trompette Militaire on 50" W.P. Also, the 32' Bombarde there is on 30" W.P. So, RAH has some competition after all

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    Ps: Remember also that its not only wind pressure but also quantity of wind which figures into the *performance* of the pipe - Among other things.............
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    Quote Originally Posted by Corno Dolce View Post
    Hi smilingvox,



    Ps: Remember also that its not only wind pressure but also quantity of wind which figures into the *performance* of the pipe - Among other things.............
    Right you are. One thing that comes to mind is the Lewis at St. Paul's Cathedral, Melbourne.

    Its 32' Double Diapason is on only 2 or 2 1/2 inches, but it is very full and penetrating. This would have to be due to a copious amount of wind hitting the windway at one time.

    Thomas Lewis normally used light wind compared to what the Willises used.

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