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    Piece for Bruckner concert (long)

    Hi folks

    I conduct my local choral society in England. In November, we're performing Bruckner's E minor mass (with wind, not organ). I'm looking for about 90 minutes of music in total. The Mass lasts about 40 minutes, and I've got three other pieces lasting about 20-25 minutes (see below), so obviously I need more. I'd like this/these to have some clear connection with Bruckner or specifically with this piece, rather than just being random.

    I need some 20 minutes' worth of music that fits the following conditions:
    1. No choir (all of the pieces in the concert so far are choral, and I don't want to give them any more to do).
    2. Uses only the resources available for this concert. This effectively means one or more instrumental pieces, using all or some of the instruments used in the Mass, namely: two oboes, two clarinets, two bassoons, four horns, two trumpets and three trombones. I thought of the Strauss Serenade for 13 wind instruments, but this adds two flutes and a double bass (for all of two bars!!!) to this combination.

    So far we're doing:

    - Schubert, Standchen D921 "Zogernd leise" (SSAA chorus, alto solo and piano): a late piece which can be taken to represent his much larger late works (especially the 8th and 9th symphonies) whose scale and harmonic procedures influenced Bruckner's large-scale works.
    - Wagner, one or both pilgrim choruses from Acts I and III of Tannhauser (TTBB chorus and (if we're performing both choruses) cor anglais, soprano solo and piano): Tannhauser was the first Wagner work Bruckner heard, and it blew him away, introducing him to the revolutionary possibilities of what was then modern music.
    - Palestrina, Kyrie from the Missa Brevis: representative of Bruckner's beloved Renaissance music that influenced him so highly; also representative of the Palestrina style that influenced this work in particular, under the influence of the Cecilians; also, and most specifically, he quoted the theme from the Kyrie in his Sanctus.

    I've tried thinking along the lines of "by Bruckner" (useless), influence ON Bruckner and influence OF Bruckner. Any ideas?

    Many thanks

    Anselm

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    I'm not sure what this is. Not quite what's asked for: http://www.whichpond.com/freemusic/
    March for Wind Sextet in B-flat Major, WoO 29 (Beethoven, Ludwig van) (2 clarinets, 2 horns, 2 bassoons)

    and more here: http://imslp.org/wiki/List_of_Compos...arinet#Sextets

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    The trombones are a problem. And no flute. Also a problem: http://imslp.org/wiki/List_of_Compos...ombone#Sextets
    Last edited by ePostings; Feb-28-2010 at 22:59.

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    Mozart wrote some attractive divertimenti that are fine with some of the instruments you mention above.
    I'm not an atheist and I don't think I can call myself a pantheist. We are in the position of a little child entering a huge library filled with books in many different languages. The child knows someone must have written those books. It does not know how. The child dimly suspects a mysterious order in the arrangement of the books but doesn't know what it is. That, it seems to me, is the attitude of even the most intelligent human being toward God.
    —Albert Einstein.

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    About Mozart's Serenade No. 10 Wikipedia says:
    The work is scored for 2 oboes, 2 clarinets, 2 basset horns, 2 bassoons, 4 horns and double bass (occasionally replaced by contrabassoon) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serenade_No._10_(Mozart)

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    Mozart's Divertimento No. 10 is scored for Strings and two horns ... (see attached), you didn't mean this one did you by mistake?
    I'm not an atheist and I don't think I can call myself a pantheist. We are in the position of a little child entering a huge library filled with books in many different languages. The child knows someone must have written those books. It does not know how. The child dimly suspects a mysterious order in the arrangement of the books but doesn't know what it is. That, it seems to me, is the attitude of even the most intelligent human being toward God.
    —Albert Einstein.

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    the problem with the lovely Divertimento No 10 is that it's got basset clarinets, not always so easy to get hold of
    I'm not an atheist and I don't think I can call myself a pantheist. We are in the position of a little child entering a huge library filled with books in many different languages. The child knows someone must have written those books. It does not know how. The child dimly suspects a mysterious order in the arrangement of the books but doesn't know what it is. That, it seems to me, is the attitude of even the most intelligent human being toward God.
    —Albert Einstein.

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    No. The problem is that vBulletin ruined the link. Here it is again and this time it works: http://tinyurl.com/ydvlpjv

    Here we have the free scores for the serenade. As Pinocchio said - no strings! http://dme.mozarteum.at/DME/nma/nma_...ion&l=1&p1=141

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