Miditizer

[oliver]

New to the forum and was searching for any opinions but found none. Any comments, input from members would be greatly appreciated. (www.virtualorgan.com) Regards, oliver

[Dorsetmike]

Hi Oliver, welcome aboard. There are quite a few of us "playing" with GrandOrgue (see the thread under this topic) which leans toward classical organs rather than Theatre organs, however there is probably quite a bit of common ground.

[wljmrbill]

I use Hauptwerk..the free edition right now and it works great..

[drwilx]

Not sure what your questions are. MidiTzer is relatively easy to set up and quite a lot of fun to play. Smaller 2 manual organ is free and the larger 3 manual is only $100. Well worth it and the money goes to a great cause - actual theatre organ restoration.

Regards,

Dennis

[oliver]

Thanks to Mike, wljmrbill and Dennis for all your replies. Have never played with pipe or theatre organs I do not have any specific question right now. Just thought that with so many knowlegeable members here, there might possibly be some comments or opinions. Recently got a new laptop so hopefully one of these weekends, I will find some time to try out Midtizer and Grandorgue. Best regards, oliver

[Krummhorn]

New to the forum and was searching for any opinions but found none. Any comments, input from members would be greatly appreciated. (www.virtualorgan.com) Regards, oliver

Hi Oliver,

I just copied (which adjusted your post count +1) the above quoted posting and placed it our Theatre Pipe Organ for more exposure. The MidiTzer has been mentioned in that particular thread .

This topic might garner more interest there, hopefully.

[Dorsetmike]

Oliver, be warned, VPOs (virtual pipe organs) are very memory hungry due to the size of sample sets; for every rank of pipes there will be a sound sample in .wav format for every note; a sample set can be over 1Gb, it will depend on the number of pipes in a rank, typically 60, the number of ranks and the size of the individual files; I'm not sure of the reason for the latter, maybe duration of the loops, perhaps one of the experts can comment.

To sum up, 512Mb is not enough, except for maybe a very small organ, I get low memory warnings on a 1Gb PC when loading a set of 24 ranks, so far 2Gb is coping, until I get a bigger sample set!!

[drwilx]

MidiTzer uses sound fonts and fluidsynth. This is a very efficient system and light on memory. jOrgan can also be used with sound fonts and fluidsynth. Latency can be a problem for some people, but with careful tweeking it can be reduced to where it is acceptable for most folks.

Dennis

[oliver]

My sincere thanks to everyone for all the additional information I do not know about. Thanks Krummhorn for reposting for more exposure. Best regards to all. Oliver

[wljmrbill]

I downloaded the Mitizer 216 organ ( free editioin, did not use that much space either) and I had no problems at all. With the preset pistons I had a large variety of sounds already to go as well as being able to set my own stops, all the toys worked.. Great sounding chimes and percussion instruments. Was able to download the organ and all my virtual set up worked right away... SO now use it as well as my Hauptwerk. Thanks

[ggoode.sa]

Hi Guys,
The MIditzer is a great beginning to virtual theatre organs on the computer. The soundfont is very small, which makes the program very easy to download and run. If you want a better sounding Miditzer there are a couple of other options out there. The first is to swap the synthesised soundfont with a sampled one, like John Tay's Wurlitzer samples (http://www.virtualorgan.com/Default.asp?Page=58). The second (requires more computer work) is to use Gigastudio or Linuxsampler to host even bigger/better sample based ranks (see http://prosites-allmanmusic.homestea...alVTPOGig.html). These make the Miditzer even more wonderful to play :-)

GrahamG

[Ghekorg7]

Hi to all !
Try also the smaller Midiger 150 free download. It's a lovely organ.
One thing : Midiger don't use ASIO but fluidsynth on its output.
On both organs(216,150) I experienced enough latency on my first attemt to play them. It took me about an hour to "play" with buffer size ect in the fluidisynth parameters adjusting window.
Also the reverb & chorus settings need adjustment to get a great theater sound.
If you 're intrested ask me to post you here my optimum settings for both organs .
In any way thow you can't get zero latency, wicth is a shame for these two exelent organs.
Panos

[drwilx]

Hi to all !
In any way thow you can't get zero latency, wicth is a shame for these two exelent organs.
Panos

Actually you can get zero latency. By using certain Creative sound cards the fonts can be loaded into the card itself and played with no latency. When I first tried out MidiTzer that is the way I went. However, now I just use the fluidsynth setup and no longer let the latency (which is quite low btw) bother me.

Regards,

Dennis

[Ghekorg7]

Hi Dennis ! and thanks for the tip ! I'll give it a try. Yes with the fluidsynth set latency goes down, but not zero, at least that's my fingers telling me. I mean if you play slow pieces ok, on rythmic staccato passages you can feel the delay right away..
Today I loaded 216 with the samples from the original Wurlizer as guided by Ggoode.sa (see above) and started glicthing all the time, so I returnd to fluidsynth bank..
Thanks again, Dennis
greetings from Athens late at night(after a hard Buxtehude practice!)
Panos

[greatcyber]

the Midizer forum has some great "How To" videos posted by Jim, the creator of Miditzer. He shows you how to use the set feature for memory, among other things. I can't tell you how much time I have spent reading and getting advice there. The Miditzer is so much fun. And I love listening to the Ron Reseigh concert. It plays for about 30 minutes. I listen to it whenever I need a pick-me-up.