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    Classical radio stations

    This year's Classic FM "Listeners Hall of Fame" has again got Lark Ascending as the top choice. It also means to me that their playlist for the coming year is now fixed, the chances of hearing anything outside that top 300 are remote.

    And yet they regularly win the Station of the year award.

    If you were to request "a piece of organ music" you would get either Bach Toc and Fugue, Widor's Toccata, or a bit of Saint-Saens Organ symphony, with the outside chance of a Trumpet Voluntary.

    In the 18 years they have been broadcasting I think I have only heard the Bach Passacaglia and Fugue once, OK I don't listen all day and night but even so ........... And since when did film scores come under the heading of classical music?

    I have occasionally sent an email request, not for anything in the top 300, so I haven't even had a reply, other than their monthly news letter, which I unsubscribe to each time.

    The other Classical station in UK is BBC radio 3, that goes to the other extreme, a lot of "niche" stuff, unless you browse the coming week's schedule you never know what's coming. I now listen mostly to on-line music, I can choose my own library!

    Do other countries have similar problems, either Classical stations behaving like hit parades or being too much the other way?
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    Mike why don,t you give internet radio a go there is just so much to choose from and it is free

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    Colin, I do listen to internet radio when I'm at the PC, Last.FM runs 10 hours plus each day, but I don't have PC in bedroom nor dining room which is when I'm reduced to broadcast stuff.
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    When I lived in Southern California, we had no less than 3 classical music radio stations ... one (KCBH) that played impeccable music during the evening hours and bluegrass during the day. Another (KPFK) was operated by University of California at Berkeley which also played a good amount of classical at night but not during the day. The third station (KFAC, and now defunct) broadcast classical all day long but had acid rock commercials in later years, mainly because the "support money" was greater.

    Here in Tucson, we have one classical station, KUAT, operated by the University of Arizona, which does a pretty good job with their selections, but like Mike has stated above, we too are not treated much to anything but the "major works" for organ literature.

    Mostly, while working on non-musical activities at the PC, I tune in to Pandora (which I understand is on available only in the US) and can pick and choose what I wish to hear to some extent.

    When I lived in Washington state, we had an excellent FM Classical station, KING-FM, that did a wonderful job with presenting organ literature that wasn't on the top 100 listing.
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    I well remember the old KFAC in L.A. Its one huge demerit was that it was a commercial station, and it reached the point where there was at least as much time given to ads as to music. During the day, no piece lasted more than 5 or 6 minutes, then that long for ads. The one program worth while was the Gas Co. Evening Concert. At least during the night (with fewer listeners) they gave more time to longer pieces.

    At one point before their demise, some relative (niece?) of Jascha Heifitz was supposed to have been one of the managers, but that didin't last long before they went off the air. By that time, I don't think many missed it.

    I suppose KUSC is still around. I no longer live in the L.A. area, so don't have the station around any more.

    Most classical stations seem to regard the organ as a "niche" interest. Even Sirius Radio, which I have in my car, only occasionally deigns to play organ music. The other night there was a rendition of Bach's T & F in d minor played by --- E. Power Biggs!! I'd say a rather old recording.
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    It is indeed a marvelous thing when one can listen to Classical Music over the web without interruption from other music types.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dll927 View Post
    I well remember the old KFAC in L.A. Its one huge demerit was that it was a commercial station, and it reached the point where there was at least as much time given to ads as to music. During the day, no piece lasted more than 5 or 6 minutes, then that long for ads. The one program worth while was the Gas Co. Evening Concert. At least during the night (with fewer listeners) they gave more time to longer pieces.
    I had forgotten that it was a commercially owned station ... thanks for that memory jog.

    As kids, we arose to KFAC's Coffee Cup Concert being played on the radio. KCBH's nightly program, Concerto from Coldwater Canyon, with Hamilton Williams was from 8 to 11 pm. I made many reel-to-reel recordings of their broadcasts (misplaced long ago). Always appreciated their longer pause after a work was completed. KFAC announcers on the other hand, would blurt in right as the piece ended. I guess that's the difference between commercially and privately operated stations.
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    Let's face it -- classical music is a difficult thing for a commercially run station. How can you play a Mahler symphony, for instance, when the powers that be want ad revenue?

    I used to always think of KFAC's 'hosts' as disc jockeys with a bit longer hair!! Many were the mornings I was on the freeway driving to work listening to the 6:00 AM opening with "The Lord's Prayer", Malotte version. Then I got a car with a tape player. I spent a good deal of time making tapes to play in the car off of LP discs. (I too did my share of reel-to-reel stuff for in the house.)

    I was always under the impression that the record companies shot themselves in the foot once CD's came out. They re-issued so many recordings from older LP masterings that before long there were 47 Beethoven 9ths, 46 Tchaikovsky 1sts (piano concerto) and 45 Beethoven 5ths (piano concerto) and only (violin concerto). And since CD's don't wear out, all but a couple of those are overkill.

    It's all where the money is. Pop music runs the show, and even on FM dials, you can hardly find a place blank enough to put the Serius thing on. So classical music listeners have to take it where they can get it.

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    might be the case where you live dll927 but in Australia there are at least four full time (24/7) classical music radio stations broadcasting in FM (one of them broadcasts throughout the country).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dorsetmike View Post
    Colin, I do listen to internet radio when I'm at the PC, Last.FM runs 10 hours plus each day, but I don't have PC in bedroom nor dining room which is when I'm reduced to broadcast stuff.
    Mike, I run a wireless system from my computer to the rest of the house, you can then purchase an internet radio as a standalone unit or fit one to your HiFi system, the computer does not have to be on to listen to these radios, it just depends on your preferences, apart from the initial cost of a Radio the rest is buckshee.

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    Where does everyone find the time to (apparently) listen all day to radio or whatever.
    I spend most of the week (or so it seems) :-
    washing dishes; vacuuming; going shopping (piped music - yuck);gardening etc;etc;etc;

    Guess thats why I only have time for jazz when time finally allows me to relax.

    Cheers John (tongue in cheek)

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    who said anyone had time to sit and listen to music all day long, I didn't ...
    I'm not an atheist and I don't think I can call myself a pantheist. We are in the position of a little child entering a huge library filled with books in many different languages. The child knows someone must have written those books. It does not know how. The child dimly suspects a mysterious order in the arrangement of the books but doesn't know what it is. That, it seems to me, is the attitude of even the most intelligent human being toward God.
    —Albert Einstein.

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    I was once like that John, then my get and go, just got up and went.
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    Time seems to me to go faster than a Wagner opera.


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    Quote Originally Posted by OLDUDE View Post
    Where does everyone find the time to (apparently) listen all day to radio or whatever.
    I spend most of the week (or so it seems) :-
    washing dishes; vacuuming; going shopping (piped music - yuck);gardening etc;etc;etc;

    Guess thats why I only have time for jazz when time finally allows me to relax.

    Cheers John (tongue in cheek)
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