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The famous Gabler Organ

The Gabler organ in Weingarten, is one of the biggest baroque organs left.
An interesting clip can be found here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N9nYTJIh51g

Along with its many special effects stops, it has quite a strange one , called "La Force" which is a 49 (!) rank mixture which applies only to the lowest C' of the pedals. I am really curious how this stop sounds like.

I have not come across any clips on youtube in which this stop is used.
If you have heard it/or found a performance on youtube lets say in which this stop is used, it would be great to post it here.

Best regards,
Nicholas
 

Corno Dolce

Admiral Honkenwheezenpooferspieler
A former organ prof that coached me many, many, many years ago mentioned that the stop in question was meant to sound like the crash, not the rumble, of thunder.
 
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wljmrbill

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Thanks for link. Very interesting video as well as Great Music from a fabulous sounding instrument.
 
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Corno Dolce

Admiral Honkenwheezenpooferspieler
Let me once more try to explain: When a thunderstorm rolls into your neighborhood and a flash of lightning appears very near you, a very nerve jangling crash like that of millions of crash cymbals precedes the rolling roar. I admit its hard to put into words what the immediate experience is because everything happens so extremely fast - one is startled by the sunlight-intense flash and then the explosively eruptive cascade of sound that follows the flash is more than the mind can handle - usually ones nerves shatter because of it.

Even whilst writing this I felt cold shock waves traveling up and down my spinal column and goose pimples breaking out on my skin. This because of how often I have experienced lightning very close to my body without being struck. The accompanying rolling/crashing/roar stuns me so.......
 
Let me once more try to explain: When a thunderstorm rolls into your neighborhood and a flash of lightning appears very near you, a very nerve jangling crash like that of millions of crash cymbals precedes the rolling roar. I admit its hard to put into words what the immediate experience is because everything happens so extremely fast - one is startled by the sunlight-intense flash and then the explosively eruptive cascade of sound that follows the flash is more than the mind can handle - usually ones nerves shatter because of it.

Even whilst writing this I felt cold shock waves traveling up and down my spinal column and goose pimples breaking out on my skin. This because of how often I have experienced lightning very close to my body without being struck. The accompanying rolling/crashing/roar stuns me so.......

Ok, i think i kind of get it now!

Still, i would like some time to go there and hear/play the organ myself!
 

Corno Dolce

Admiral Honkenwheezenpooferspieler
The Swabian Baroque organ in Weingarten by Gabler is such a totally different animal when compared to an instrument by Schnitger. The Gabler is such an overwhelming gem of an instrument in design and how it is voiced/finished. Imvoho Gabler's instruments almost are another School of Organbuilding.
 

smilingvox

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Along with its many special effects stops, it has quite a strange one , called "La Force" which is a 49 (!) rank mixture which applies only to the lowest C' of the pedals. I am really curious how this stop sounds like.

Piet Kee did a recording here on the Chandos label. He played a lengthy piece by Bach, which included many variations on a hymn. In the final chord, Piet added the La Force. It sounded like an alarm. Very bright and dominates the full organ.

I don't think this CD is still in print. It was released back in 1992.
 

mathetes1963

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Piet Kee did a recording here on the Chandos label. He played a lengthy piece by Bach, which included many variations on a hymn. In the final chord, Piet added the La Force. It sounded like an alarm. Very bright and dominates the full organ.

I don't think this CD is still in print. It was released back in 1992.

I've got that one! GREAT disc! :cool:
 

Contratrombone64

Admiral of Fugues
A former organ prof that coached me many, many, many years ago mentioned that the stop in question was meant to sound like the crash, not the rumble, of thunder.

Sounds like the pipe was intended for the theatre organ next door and the courier got the wrong delivery address ... ;-)
 

dll927

New member
Having watched a few You Tube clips on that organ, it strikes me that the console looks rather un-baroque. Almost looks more like a Cavaille-Coll job. Has the console been changed from its original configuration? Those stop knobs are just too easy to get to!!
 
Having watched a few You Tube clips on that organ, it strikes me that the console looks rather un-baroque. Almost looks more like a Cavaille-Coll job. Has the console been changed from its original configuration? Those stop knobs are just too easy to get to!!

The organ is a mechanical marvel!
The console has not been changed at all, it is the same as when it was built, and other than that the organ is considered to have relatively light keys even with full organ.
 

Marc

New member
Somebody knows where to find pictures from INSIDE the organs, i.e. the trackers?
Thanks.
I once found these, forgot about the site though.
But I did make a note about them: tracker section for 32 ft pipe towers (2 pics) & Vox Humana pipes.

If you begin on the internet with a general searching machine, and type words like Gabler Weingarten trackers pipes, you might find something (more?).

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