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Ghekorg7 (Ret)

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Admiral that's great, not only METAL but some POST John Coltrane/Pharhoa Sanders cosmic explosion !!
Thanks for the link!
Panos
 

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Absolutely wonderful, CD ...

And of course, an excellent organ with marvelous acoustics.
 

Corno Dolce

Admiral Honkenwheezenpooferspieler
Hi Panos,

You bet. McCoy Tyner who was associated with Coltrane for some years has an uncanny tonal and harmonic richness to his playing - The way he *revoices* chords, chordal substitutions, using either augmented or diminished ninth, eleventh, or even diminished thirteenth chords and with a left hand that quite often will pound the keyboard. It all makes for an eruptive quality which, AFAIK, no-one else does so quite artistically as McCoy does........In Post-Bop style.

Getting back to the thread topic: Jean Guillou certainly does stretch the harmonic envelope, YIKES!!! :eek::eek::eek: - Maybe his rhythmicity is Prokofievian in nature, n'est-ce pas?

Cheers,

CD :tiphat::tiphat::tiphat:
 
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wljmrbill

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Well now that was different for me. Does remind me of other french composers music.. mainly the Notre Dame boys. Thanks for insite.
 

Corno Dolce

Admiral Honkenwheezenpooferspieler
Hi Dorsetmike,

Guillou is known for his *Metaphysically Dissonant* music that grates on just about everbody's nerves, including yours truly. Still, I give him credit for his *explorations*.
 

Ghekorg7 (Ret)

Rear Admiral Appassionata (Ret)
Hi to all. Corno you hit me here...'cause at the age of 19 I played exactly as McCoy Tyner, I had copied all off his stuff, 'till "someone" with the name of Tony Scott (clarinet - famous band with Billie Holliday) told me that I had to find Panos and not to be someone else.
He became my teacher and he played(in 1984) everynight with my small quartet (Physis Quartet), for four months....I missed him so much.

So, Guillou is something else and (I'll dare to say that) if John was alive he would certenly play with him - imagine what music they would give to us !!

Panos
 

Corno Dolce

Admiral Honkenwheezenpooferspieler
Hi Panos,

Wow!!! What a stunning revelation you make - thats gutsy. I have never ventured to think that I could play like McCoy. Imvoho he is just too original. Of course, one can mimic McCoy but what then is the fun of it? Thankfully I realised many years ago that it is better to develop your own style, whether it be e.g. Jazz or Classical.

Of course McCoy has inspired me to stretch my jazz harmonies and am thankful to have heard him at the height of his powers.

Cheers,

CD :tiphat::tiphat::tiphat::tiphat:
 

Ghekorg7 (Ret)

Rear Admiral Appassionata (Ret)
Exactly as you say, Admiral, great inspiration (for those who want to be inspired ..) he is.
He changed the way I was thinking about piano, him and Keith Jarret of course, among many others.
Like Eberhard Weber, Shostakovich and Prokofiev changed my thinking about composing......

Greetings
Panos
 

Ghekorg7 (Ret)

Rear Admiral Appassionata (Ret)
Hey, I just remember...
I did a recording of one of McCoys favorite compositions, SAMA LAYUKA, for the Greek National Radio in 1985 with 1st progr Trio (sax/bass/drums)and I have somewere in my archives a copy in a cassete tape...
How can I turn it to digital and send it to you to hear it ?
I know... I must find first a cassete player somewere in my old stuff....
Panos
 

Ghekorg7 (Ret)

Rear Admiral Appassionata (Ret)
No, no bad cat .... not at all..
It's just the 6.000 plus posts that hits me.
On the other way, I live with 3 cats and a Golden Retriever, along with my wife and son, so I know something about cats...
cheers
Panos
 

Corno Dolce

Admiral Honkenwheezenpooferspieler
Hi Panos,

Stick around for awhile and be plenty loquacious and you'll have lots of postings to your credit. I'm not as much on this forum as I used to be, especially since my wife and I became proud parents of quadruplets - 2 boys and 2 girls not too long ago. So now when they sleep I can then read and write on this forum.

Cheers,

CD :tiphat::tiphat::tiphat:

Ps: Do you have *McCoy Tyner plays John Coltrane*? It's a favorite of mine where his trio does such a fine job on Naima and Crescent(Broke Down Piece of Man).
 
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Ghekorg7 (Ret)

Rear Admiral Appassionata (Ret)
Hi cd !
My best wishes for your sons and girls. And wish you patience and strength...!

My son is now 12 and you went me back when I had to work late at night with headphones... after I had finish my law paper-work...

I've got the record in vinyl...what a raw power this is...sometimes I feel this is the only true music...(I mean John's) and I know I'm overreacting...

Did you know that the Orthodox Church of Chicago declared John Coltrane a Saint ?
Yes, and there is an orthodox Icon of him with his tenor sax on soulder : St.John the Coltrane. It's years now I've seen this in the newspaper. Check it.

Greetings
Panos
 

Corno Dolce

Admiral Honkenwheezenpooferspieler
Blessed Panos,

Kristos Aneste! As a man with your skills and experience in music I presume that you are aware of how McCoy's artistry really blossomed after he left Coltrane's group. I am quite surprised that the Orthodox Church declared him a Saint. As a convert to the Russian Orthodox Church I am not too aware of what my brethren and sisters in the Greek Orthodox Church do.

Maybe you could pardon my ignorance in this matter...Thanx for your well wishes. My kids are so peaceful - The only time they squall is when their diapers need changing. And they sleep right through the night - from nine p.m. to 7 a.m. And they already love the music of Bach...

Cheers,

CD :tiphat::tiphat::tiphat:
 

Ghekorg7 (Ret)

Rear Admiral Appassionata (Ret)
Alethos o Kyrios !

My friend cd, you're right about McKoy.

Let me tell you more about St.John affair.
The Greek Orthodox Church, as the Russian too (you know we're related..for centuries) 'till today they don't recognize him as a saint, of course. Our brothers in Chicago did, years ago, and this was the point of that newspaper man's story : "Why only American Orthodoxes, and not Greeks, Russians, Egyptians, Romanians and so on and why only Orthodoxes and not all the other Christians ?"
It's a shame I didn't keep somewhere a copy from that newspaper(a serius one).

Hey, there's nothing to pardon, I just wanted to discuss with you and share something.

By the way, have you notice how far we went from the begining of this thread ?
From Hard Metal Pipe Organ to John Coltrane to McCoy to us to interdogmatic international religius affairs of the Holy Churches !!!
I think it's like a post-metal symphonic free-bop suite in four movements.....

Cheers
Panos

P.S. My son Constantine studies the el.organ the 5th year now, he likes M.Claire-Alain(favorite piece J.S.B.'s Watchet auf....but can't play it yet..) but also big band Jazz(Ellington mostly), david Bowie and ...Opeth ! How can he mix that?
 
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Corno Dolce

Admiral Honkenwheezenpooferspieler
Br. Panos,

Yes, we HAVE strayed far off the thread topic :confused::grin::crazy:And how FAR we have ranged.......Symphonic Free-Bop - Hey, thats catchy :D
The famous Leonard Bernstein uniquely saw the inherent similarities between Bach and Jazz.

St. John the Coltrane - Hmmmmmmm, I'm going to do some *fishing*. Congrats on your Constantine plugging away at music. Marie Claire Alain's brother Jehan has contributed valueably to the canon of organ repertoire,

Cheers,

CD :tiphat::tiphat::tiphat:
 

Ghekorg7 (Ret)

Rear Admiral Appassionata (Ret)
Thanks cd.

I have to do some more search on Marie's brother, but I got a cd with her playin' her father's compositions for the organ. Great stuff and an invaluable teacher he was. What he will telling us if he had heard this "symphonic Metal thrash (wwhatever..) ? I wonder...

Cheers
panos
 

Corno Dolce

Admiral Honkenwheezenpooferspieler
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