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    Fantasia Bwv542 by a...Ghost!

    Suddently a ghost came in and played Fantasia in Gm (sorry no fugue..) on a Silbermann...
    Creepy....
    Check this out.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=el_7oy9DG6E

    Panos

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    says video is not available.
    " The essance of reproduction,to feel and re-create that which was felt and impared by the creater,does not exclude- within natural limitations-the assertion of creative power" - Dr. Hugo Goldschmidt.

    I wish you the Best for each day, now and always.

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    It is not available.


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    That's right. This video is no longer available for some reason.
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    The Ghost didn't want to be seen....

    Autchhh.......

    I beg for your pardon...!!!!

    The l is L !!!

    Try this

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eL_7oy9DG6E

    When you mess with ghosts ......

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    Ah that is better, thank you.

    Perhaps the organist is a little shy.


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    He He.... A shy ghost maybe, dear Margaret.
    Why he/she didn't play the fugue ?

    JS played 542 for the first time before Reiken himself and he was well prepared to astonish him. The fugue is dificult I know (I'm still in the 1st page when the pedal part of the theme comes in) but I thought nothing's difficult for ghosts !

    Panos

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    I love this fantasia myself a lot, it's extremely playable (apart from some finger torturing moments on the second page [you know, that highly chromatic passage]). However, I didn't like this performance at all, sorry.

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    Don't be sorry at all CT ! I didn't either!!
    It's because ghosts don't have much time to practice it seems....

    One of the reasons I started this thread was to discuss a little about 542 and we, to have a little fun with this video.
    Also to talk about Silbermann and his relation with the Grand Master.

    As for me I stuck with Wolfgang Stockmeier's performance in 1978...I have it as my basic guide.

    Thanks
    Panos

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    Hans Fagius (Sweden) and Knud Vad (Denmark) both have recorded this work and Fagius' playing for me at least, is my favourite. However, Helmut Walcha really comes a very close second.

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    Here is a virtual tour of town and organ mentioned above.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3fpkFUr1Jvk
    " The essance of reproduction,to feel and re-create that which was felt and impared by the creater,does not exclude- within natural limitations-the assertion of creative power" - Dr. Hugo Goldschmidt.

    I wish you the Best for each day, now and always.

    Bill

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    Thanks Bill, I just returned from the tour....
    I confess I LOVE this organ.... I want it (as OrganMatters said ...) in my appartment!!

    CT, I never listen to the players you mention, they must be great , but I still have the complete works of JSB in 8+7 vinyl records from Archiv Produktion Collection with the GREAT Walcha.
    For me is the greatest of them all.

    But for 542 I stuck with Stockmeier -?!! - (maybe I'm gettin'old...) he has the best registration on diapasons on the first contrapuntal theme at the end of the first page after the opening(Fantasia) and plays with extreme feel and absolute tempo for this theme.

    Panos

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    I may be in left field, but I love Louis Vierne's 1929 recording of BWV 542 @Notre-Dame!

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    Not left field at all, Vierne had a particular fondness for Bach as most virtuoso French organists do ... I mean afterall, organ music without Bach would be very limited indeed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Contratrombone64 View Post
    Not left field at all, Vierne had a particular fondness for Bach as most virtuoso French organists do ... I mean afterall, organ music without Bach would be very limited indeed.
    You're right CT
    I 'll tell you what I think.
    Before JS there where Frescobaldi, Praetorius, Couperin, Pachelbel, Bohm, Buxtehude.
    Great pieces they wrote, some of them very important innovators, but they didn't reach the perfection JS did. He collected all their works together and he went Organ (not only) music beyond imagination, at the same time being inside limits and rules !
    Another person that opened new dimentions was, long time forgotten, Antonio Vivaldi. Bach new his works, liked him a lot and took from him many things from the Italian style incorporate them into the more severe North German one. Echo effects, for example, chord progression ect

    What to say about JS...One will need hundreds of pages, all together millions....

    cheers
    Panos

    PS.Vierne...French school....Great stuff, another big story to tell...

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