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    Admiral Honkenwheezenpooferspieler Corno Dolce's Avatar
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    Another Maestro Daniel Roth Improv

    Man, Daniel Roth rocks on as ever - unstoppable and unflappable:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dzibk...eature=related
    *If a man wants God to hear his prayer quickly, then before he prays for anything else, even his own soul, when he stands and stretches out his hands towards God, he must pray with all his heart for his enemies. Through this action God will hear everything that he asks* -Abba Zeno-

    *Protagoras: "Truth is subjective. What is true for you, and what is true for me, is true for me. Your opinion is true by virtue of its being your opinion."

    *Socrates: "My opinion is: Truth is absolute, not opinion, and that you are in absolute error. Since this is my opinion, then according to your philosophy you must grant that it is true."

    "Improvisational Art": http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qSxVO3EoCRM

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    Amazing what that guy can do. A lot of dissonance, but it's still worth the listen.

    After twenty-some years of playing that monster, he obviously knows how it's put together. What one doesn't always see is what's he's doing with all those coupler and ventil pedals down below. Clearly, one can get along without pistons and all the other bells and whistles we have nowadays.

    It would take me a while to get used to seeing all the keys on various manuals dancing around around without even being touched. Yes, I know why, but it still looks just a bit odd to us modernists.

    In this case, he spends a lot of time pulling and pushing stops. I wonder how many teachers would frown on that. But again, he knows what he's doing, and I suppose we would all be fortunate to have his ability.

    One other thing -- how many currently "new" organs will still be around 148 years from now?

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    Hi dll927,

    You ask such a poignant and prescient question, how many *new* will still be around 148 years from now? I wish I could answer that but I'll be pushing up daisies way before then.

    Seriously, I have this premonition that few, if any, of the *newies* will be around then. Western society is in such an uproar over its cultural patrimony - as if it is ready to commit *seppuku* - The cultural deconstruction phase is blazing in the West. Only those countries that are smart enough to have *enshrined* a body of laws that protect the little that is left of noteworthy patrimonial value will be able to pass on to future generations the fruits of art, science, and labor. Of course, there is another even more compelling reason why but that is for another forum and thread.

    Cheers,

    CD
    *If a man wants God to hear his prayer quickly, then before he prays for anything else, even his own soul, when he stands and stretches out his hands towards God, he must pray with all his heart for his enemies. Through this action God will hear everything that he asks* -Abba Zeno-

    *Protagoras: "Truth is subjective. What is true for you, and what is true for me, is true for me. Your opinion is true by virtue of its being your opinion."

    *Socrates: "My opinion is: Truth is absolute, not opinion, and that you are in absolute error. Since this is my opinion, then according to your philosophy you must grant that it is true."

    "Improvisational Art": http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qSxVO3EoCRM

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    Hi dll927. I would hope that no one would have a go at him for the way he manages the organ. It's the way it is. As you say he clearly knows his way around it, because of the ventils etc, you need to be thinking ahead as to what combinations you need.

    I'm not a big fan of all bells and whistles on new instruments. Many moons ago, I played a bigish cathedral organ for one of the holiday services. At the end of the service I was asked by one of the organ scholars (at the service for some unknown reason...) how I got a particular sound. The guy was totally non-plussed when I told him. Rather than use the set piston combinations, I did a manual stop change to get the required sound - (shock, horror, gasp!!)

    Changing, tack, if I was a big lottery winner or discoverd Bill Gates as a long lost father, I would have a replica of the Saint-sulpice console operating a Hauptwerk sound set from the origional. Mrs. QFE might have something to say about that, though!

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    Hi QFE,

    Do you mean something like this?:

    www.pcorgan.com/images/console/JoergGlebe.jpg
    *If a man wants God to hear his prayer quickly, then before he prays for anything else, even his own soul, when he stands and stretches out his hands towards God, he must pray with all his heart for his enemies. Through this action God will hear everything that he asks* -Abba Zeno-

    *Protagoras: "Truth is subjective. What is true for you, and what is true for me, is true for me. Your opinion is true by virtue of its being your opinion."

    *Socrates: "My opinion is: Truth is absolute, not opinion, and that you are in absolute error. Since this is my opinion, then according to your philosophy you must grant that it is true."

    "Improvisational Art": http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qSxVO3EoCRM

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    Woow! Just the sort of thing I was thinking of, CD!

    The use of light-coloured wood really makes it blend into the modern household - honest!!

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    Hi QFE,

    Glad that I could be of just a little service - As you probably know there has yet to be any sample set recording of the CC at St. Sulpice. Rumour has it that Maestro Roth and the Curia at St. Sulpice are very, very, VERY touchy about any sample set recording, since it would detract from the real mccoy - no one would visit St. Sulpice anymore if there were many CC/St. Sulpice clones in peoples living rooms.

    On the one hand methinks I can empathise somewhat but on the other hand just think of the exposure budding organ enthusiasts, aficionados, students, pros, and church organ committees that a really decent facsimile would offer. So, I am all for the *cloning* by Hauptwerk of the CC/St. Sulpice organ - No doubt about it. I would definitely get me a console built by Heuss - the one you saw in the image link I posted with the complete resources of the big CC.

    Cheers,

    CD
    *If a man wants God to hear his prayer quickly, then before he prays for anything else, even his own soul, when he stands and stretches out his hands towards God, he must pray with all his heart for his enemies. Through this action God will hear everything that he asks* -Abba Zeno-

    *Protagoras: "Truth is subjective. What is true for you, and what is true for me, is true for me. Your opinion is true by virtue of its being your opinion."

    *Socrates: "My opinion is: Truth is absolute, not opinion, and that you are in absolute error. Since this is my opinion, then according to your philosophy you must grant that it is true."

    "Improvisational Art": http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qSxVO3EoCRM

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