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    Unknown organ+orchestra work

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_H__k7DV8So

    I've been trying to figure out the title/composer of this work for many years. I thought I might ask around in hopes that someone here knows it. Please post if you do!

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    sorry no.. but I do like it.
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    I've not heard this one before ... but really like it too.
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    Sure love it and it vexes me that I don't know what it is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by j_weidinger View Post
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_H__k7DV8So

    I've been trying to figure out the title/composer of this work for many years. I thought I might ask around in hopes that someone here knows it. Please post if you do!
    Hi i_weidinger !

    Exellent link, beautiful music, great puzzle...

    I do not know the work but the style of orchestration for the orchestra has a strong ressemblence to P.I.Tchaikovsy's music...very strong...from the strings arrangements to the horns....also the themes are close to his genius. I do not know if he ever wrote something like this one...

    On the other hand.. we must ask jDude where did he find this recording, is it from old tapes ? old LP without cover or label? TV broadcast ? an old movie maybe ? The piece stops suddently without finale...

    I have a feeling this is from a Russian composer before the Red October...

    Panos

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    Doesn't sound Russian to me at all, rather French or English, but that's just my ill-informed guess. Can't wait to find out, though ...

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    Hi CT ! Yes it's our lucky guess ... French, Russian, English..
    But I think we must have the answers to the above questions...
    cheers
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ghekorg7 View Post
    Hi i_weidinger !

    Exellent link, beautiful music, great puzzle...

    I do not know the work but the style of orchestration for the orchestra has a strong ressemblence to P.I.Tchaikovsy's music...very strong...from the strings arrangements to the horns....also the themes are close to his genius. I do not know if he ever wrote something like this one...

    On the other hand.. we must ask jDude where did he find this recording, is it from old tapes ? old LP without cover or label? TV broadcast ? an old movie maybe ? The piece stops suddently without finale...

    I have a feeling this is from a Russian composer before the Red October...

    Panos
    I am Jdude. My brother gave me a CD of organ music when I was a child, it had this on it. He also gave me a sheet with all of the info on it (and other pieces), but I lost it and he doesn't remember the source of anything. He probably got it from an FTP or torrent back in the day.

    It doesn't sound Russian to me, but we're forgetting that Tchaikovsky was schooled mainly in the Western tradition as opposed to other Russian nationalist composers in his day (Rimsky-Korsakov, Musorgsky, other Mighty Five members), so we can't rule him out. If I find out from another source, I will let you all know; I hope someone here knows though!!!

    Thanks,

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    Be assured - Tchaikowsky did not composer a work for organ and orchestra.

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    Here's a PDF listing of known Organ/Orchestra comps ... it's 12 pages long - I had no idea there were so many.
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    Lars - far out!! that's a wonderful list, contains one of my absolute favourites: the William Lovelock concertino for organ and orchestra (of which I own both recording and full score).

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    Krummhorn this is great !
    This list is a treasure, I 'm prepearing a thread about how we can practice works for organ and orchestra, or organ with other instruments at home, so this fills a large gap for me.
    Thanks very much !
    Panos

    PS Now we have to listen to all works listed there and make a match.....

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    Went through the last.fm lists for organ concertos, found some that it is not, but which have ben added to my play list. Did think for a time that it might be Poulenc but although similar in some respects it's not the G minor.

    Ones to eliminate from the search, Poulenc, Hanson, Williamson, Buckley, Rheinberger, Charles Wesley, John Stanley, Handel (although I didn't listen to all of his), it don't really sound all that Handelian
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    Quote Originally Posted by Contratrombone64 View Post
    Be assured - Tchaikowsky did not composer a work for organ and orchestra.
    Hi CT !

    Tchaikovsky composed "Manfred" Symphony in witch the Organ plays a prominent and significant part !

    Cheers
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    Sure, so did Elgar in several of his Pomp and Circumstance Marches AND in his Enigma Variations ... these are NOT, like Manfred, works for Organ and orchestra. The organ is merely one of the band.

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