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    Quote Originally Posted by mathetes1963 View Post
    Sorry guys! I can't access Youtube @ work, so I posted the links "blind" so to speak. HERE is the Karl Richter BWV 538:
    Toccata
    Fugue

    I'm sure the "purists" are gnashing their teeth, but I love this interpretation...such passion!

    [....]

    @Marc: I don't like all of Richter's playing, but there's just something about his reading of the "Dorian" that really moves me. Call me weird.
    It seems to me you're happy with your own preferences. I wouldn't call that weird.

    But Richter & me isn't a real love story, that's all. It's been that way since I was about 13 or 14 years old, and I had my first taste of the great Bach vocal works and cantatas. Without the burden of 'knowledge' or 'purist's or scholastic opinions' I listened to the radio and borrowed vinyl LP's from the local phonothèque. I liked the performances of f.i. Leonhardt, Harnoncourt and Herreweghe very much, I was able to appreciate not-so-purists like Charles de Wolff and Fritz Werner, and I didn't like the performances by Richter. In some cases, preferences change, but apparently not in Richter's case. (Call me weird. )
    I do like at least Richter's recording of Bach's Magnificat BWV 243 (coupled with BWV 140 on DG Galleria), and his recording of the Brandenburg Concertos, first half of the sixties, issued by DG/Archiv. I especially have a weak spot for the 2nd in F-Major BWV 1047. Now and then I allow myself to get blown away by that one again.

    All this doesn't mean that I consider Richter as 'not done' in Bach. I think he's essential for understanding the development of 20th century Bach interpretation, and he had great influence on the next generation, even in times that 'authenticism' and 'HIP' gained their way.
    In a way, I think that f.i. Helmuth Rilling is half a Richter-pupil and half a purist-pupil. But to be honest: Rilling isn't my cup of tea .... either.

    But this is mainly non-organ talk and therefore a bit off-topic. I didn't listen to Bach's organ this evening & night because of the football/soccer finale of the Champion's League. But there will be more days to come.

    Oh, btw, I did listen to Chorzempa late this afternoon, and I have to say that his 1983 recording of the 'Vivaldi Concertos' is quite good. It's better than two other eighties recordings that I have. On those I find him a bit too static, reticent and even slightly mannered sometimes. Funny thing is that in many cases the Vivaldi- and other transcriptions seem to bring out the best of almost every organist, even of those that I do not really favour myself.

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    Out of print: Wolfgang Rübsam's first integral (Philips).
    Therefore I hope you all enjoy these three chorale arrangements for Whitsun, played on the Metzler organ of the St. Nikolauskirke, Frauenfeld, Switzerland.

    BWV 651:
    http://www.mediafire.com/?nth4224ywzt

    BWV 652:
    http://www.mediafire.com/?ttgrttzkjyh

    BWV 667:
    http://www.mediafire.com/?uqtzjqntqzq

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    Sometimes one hears people say I've heard that tune too much.

    Personally, it doesn't apply for this one:

    + YouTube Video
    ERROR: If you can see this, then YouTube is down or you don't have Flash installed.

    Willem van Twillert playing Jesus bleibet meine Freude (taken from BWV 147) on the Hinsz organ (1781) of the Marti****rk in Bolsward, NL.

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    Every time I hear it is as it was the first time.
    It's never too much with some diamonds like this.
    They shine forever.
    Very Good performance, very good organ. M.C.Alain came closer to me with one of her versions.

    Marc, thank you.
    Panos

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    I agree, this is just devine music. Our musical great-grand-daddy Bach certainly knew how to twist harmonies and melodies around chorale tunes.

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    Another interesting link, I think:

    http://avaxhome.ws/music/classical/b..._der_fuge.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marc View Post
    Um, Marc, is this recording PD?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mathetes1963 View Post
    Um, Marc, is this recording PD?
    I'm not sure what PD means in this context.
    I had 3 possibilities:
    1 Public Domain
    2 Pure Data
    3 Prisoner's Dilemma

    About 1: not entirely sure, to be honest. But I checked the internet first and I don't think it's a rip-off from a still available CD. Corti did make an official recording of the AoF earlier, but that one was played on the Tamburini organ of the Catholic cathedral in Milan. This official 'studio' recording is also worthwhile btw, as is his entire integral, although that one is rather difficult to get. It might be officially OOP.
    The 2007 live performance sounds like a high level amateur recording .... or maybe even meant for broadcast originally ....?
    About 2: if there are problems with the data, I converted the FLACs with the freeware Koyote Soft free sound converter.
    About 3: ....

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    Prima Donna?

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    Panos' Diapassons ?!

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    You're ALL wrong! Pizza Delivery!!!

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    A GOOD one Mathetes !!

    PS. is it Pepperoni ?

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    Public Defecation

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    Who cares about strict definitions,
    in a way Bach always worked pro Deo.

    And then I sang this song
    Now I'm a believer
    Not a trace
    Of doubt in my mind.



    http://www.mediafire.com/?lnwmytedtey

    Wir glauben all' an einen Gott BWV 740
    Bram Beekman playing on the Van Hagerbeer/Schnitger-organ, St. Laurenskerk, Alkmaar, NL.

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    Post Dated?
    Pedal dispasionately?

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