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    Tallis: Spem in Alium

    Hi,

    Wow! 8 choirs - 40 voices! This is me singing all the parts. I really need encouragement to finish this project. Let me know what you think. I apologize for the poor sound quality, but all the audio I post on YouTube gets distorted.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dZGvK7P7-kk

    Thanks,
    Bruce

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    You can't go wrong with Tallis

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    Hi bloeff,

    Good going on Tallis - If you like huge multi-part works please check out Alessandro Striggio:

    www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mb-xyh5f5x4

    And Heinrich Biber's Missa Salisburgensis in 52 parts:

    A sample here:

    www.youtube.com/watch?v=4hTsxhWzVeA


    Cheers,

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    Hi guys,

    Thanks for the positive feedback!! This helps me press on. I'll post the complete song when I'm done.

    Thanks,
    Bruce

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    Look forward to hearing the whole work..
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    Wonderful, Bruce ... nicely done.

    If one adds "&fmt=18" (without the quotations), the sound quality improves greatly. To use this YT feature, add &fmt=18 to the YT url and have it reload.
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    Wow, that's fantastic, bloeff!!I look forward to hearing the rest of it.

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    sorry to sound cynical, but listening to that it sounds computer generated, the accents at the beginning of each syllable just don't seem right somehow.
    I'm not an atheist and I don't think I can call myself a pantheist. We are in the position of a little child entering a huge library filled with books in many different languages. The child knows someone must have written those books. It does not know how. The child dimly suspects a mysterious order in the arrangement of the books but doesn't know what it is. That, it seems to me, is the attitude of even the most intelligent human being toward God.
    —Albert Einstein.

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    Hi,

    Thanks for the feedback. Other than some reverb, the only effect I added was a pitch shift of a couple of semitones for the soprano. My falsetto just isn't quiet high enough!

    Thanks,
    Bruce

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    You still seem to have a pretty good range.

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    yeah - and there's no way of prooving that the singing all came from the one voice, very spurious I'm afraid in my opinion.
    I'm not an atheist and I don't think I can call myself a pantheist. We are in the position of a little child entering a huge library filled with books in many different languages. The child knows someone must have written those books. It does not know how. The child dimly suspects a mysterious order in the arrangement of the books but doesn't know what it is. That, it seems to me, is the attitude of even the most intelligent human being toward God.
    —Albert Einstein.

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    Hi everbody,

    Thanks for the discussion! Actually the response I've been after is that it couldn't be just one voice! I'm a 58 year old man. Although I've never had any formal voice training, I have always loved choral music. About a year ago, I started playing around on my computer recording my voice. Over time I improved the sound with the goal always being to create the fullest choral sound possible. Right now I'm trying to create a sound that might eventually be marketable with the angle of a one man choir. If anyone has tips along that line, I would greatly appreciate them. Here is another song that I recorded and posted earlier. I hope all of this helps resolve any doubt that it's me singing all the parts.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2fwQzm5Cdak

    Thanks again,
    Bruce

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    Have you heard of P.D.Q. Bach's forgotten "masterpiece" Spam in Alium ?

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    Not "Spam in Jellium" ?

    Finally got around to listening to bloeff's link. It's a thoroughly good effort and reminds me of the sorts of things I used to do when I bought my first cassette multitracker many centuries ago. The most I ever managed though was six parts and that was still for male voices only - was never brave enough to attempt soprano or alto range either, even with falsetto (well, not whilst sober anyway).

    The artifacts introduced with the pitch shifting does give away a bit of electronic help and sounds a little chipmunkish in the very high register, but overall, it's an ambitious project, so good luck with it!

    One the biggest choral highlights in my life was singing (in choir no. 5 I think it was) for a live performance of Spem. A profoundly moving experience.
    Music is made to transform the states of the soul, for an hour or an instant (J. Alain)

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    Matt - "cassette multitracker" made me laugh! You ARE old!! (join the club).
    I'm not an atheist and I don't think I can call myself a pantheist. We are in the position of a little child entering a huge library filled with books in many different languages. The child knows someone must have written those books. It does not know how. The child dimly suspects a mysterious order in the arrangement of the books but doesn't know what it is. That, it seems to me, is the attitude of even the most intelligent human being toward God.
    —Albert Einstein.

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