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    Admiral Honkenwheezenpooferspieler Corno Dolce's Avatar
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    Maestro Daniel Roth At Wanamaker

    Well, what a treat to hear the Master on the Wanamaker Monster:


    www.youtube.com/watch?v=NSm5ie_BlUQ

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    Very impressive!

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    Great find CD, looks relatively recent too. Mr Roth is thoroughly inspirational, and it's interesting that at least two of the titulaires of S. Sulpice have graced the Wanamaker with their genius. What is it about the French organists and their ability to cultivate a brain in each limb??
    Music is made to transform the states of the soul, for an hour or an instant (J. Alain)

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    Hi Soubasse,

    Not only in each limb but also in each finger

    Daniel Roth and Olivier Latry seem to lead the pack - Just so absolutely phenomenal.............

    Might you be *plugging in*(learning to play) some more organ works by Alain these days?

    Cheers,

    CD
    *If a man wants God to hear his prayer quickly, then before he prays for anything else, even his own soul, when he stands and stretches out his hands towards God, he must pray with all his heart for his enemies. Through this action God will hear everything that he asks* -Abba Zeno-

    *Protagoras: "Truth is subjective. What is true for you, and what is true for me, is true for me. Your opinion is true by virtue of its being your opinion."

    *Socrates: "My opinion is: Truth is absolute, not opinion, and that you are in absolute error. Since this is my opinion, then according to your philosophy you must grant that it is true."

    "Improvisational Art": http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qSxVO3EoCRM

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    Commodore con Forza Soubasse's Avatar
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    1000% in agreeance with your opinion of Messrs Roth et Latry, even shaking hands with them and standing next to them to watch them play felt like an inestimable privilege.

    Re Alain, yes seeing as how it's his 100th birthday next year, I will be preparing a programme, so I've already had to get started. I've decided for reasons of both discipline and technique that I need the hassle of properly completing Trois Danses. Will probably resurrect the Fantaisies as well. There's even a possibility of making a pilgrimage to a certain instrument in Romainmotier next year - will have to wait and see.
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    Gee, the guy even knows how to use pistons -- something Cavaille-Coll forgot to include!!

    I understand that organ has a vast string section, and he seems to make use of it quite nicely. It does seem a bit odd that the manuals all seem to sound about the same.

    Does anyone know about when these were done? If he were to write down all of his improvisations, they would take up a large volume of paper. And it would be interesting to get his take on how it feels to play that organ in contrast to S. Sulpice, especially the ability to change stops so much more easily.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Soubasse View Post
    There's even a possibility of making a pilgrimage to a certain instrument in Romainmotier next year - will have to wait and see.
    *waves his hand madly at Matt* - can I be your sherpa??

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    Thanks for the offer David but unfortunately, we may also have about 70 school kids in tow. But there's no way if I end up going on the tour that I'm NOT finding my way to the Alain organ in Switzerland!!

    Dll, it's surprisingly uncomplicated to change registrations at Saint Sulpice. Maestro Roth demonstrated it on my visit there and I was amazed at the efficiency of the system (not to mention the age of it!). As for comparisons to the Wanamaker, well it has one extra manual, they're raked not flat, it has a few (a few hundred??) more stops ... other than that, they're pretty similar really ...
    Hang on ... one of them is a Cavaille-Coll ... there's no comparison!!
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    He was at Wanamaker's in April this year, I believe.

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    *gnashes his teeth* @ Matt.

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    Hi dll,

    Well, for what it is worth, Peter Richard Conte being the artist-at-large on the Wanamaker, he can bring forth sounds that Daniel Roth has yet to discover, but give Maestro Roth unfettered access to the Wanamaker for awhile and he'll dazzle anyone and everyone. St. Sulpice is a Romantic instrument with Classical restraint. The Wanamaker however is a full-bore *ultra hyper-symphonic* organ - The two could not be any more different. Almost an unfair comparison in my book........
    *If a man wants God to hear his prayer quickly, then before he prays for anything else, even his own soul, when he stands and stretches out his hands towards God, he must pray with all his heart for his enemies. Through this action God will hear everything that he asks* -Abba Zeno-

    *Protagoras: "Truth is subjective. What is true for you, and what is true for me, is true for me. Your opinion is true by virtue of its being your opinion."

    *Socrates: "My opinion is: Truth is absolute, not opinion, and that you are in absolute error. Since this is my opinion, then according to your philosophy you must grant that it is true."

    "Improvisational Art": http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qSxVO3EoCRM

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    From what I've read, the S. Sulpice organ has a drawknob for each division that can set a combination for later. But I gather this can only be done once. I've never seen Roth using "regisrants" at the sides to change stops, so there must be some things sort of unique about that organ, even compared to other C-C organs.

    That drawknob system is explained in some descriptions of the organ. It apparently has to be done before starting to play a piece, as you have to set the second combination, then pull that drawknob when needed. Still not as easy to deal with as pistons that can set various combinations.

    But when all is said and done, that organ has lived through several well-known organists, so it must have its advantages. And I dare say it's a "prestigeous" position around town.

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    As usual for Mr. Roth.. excellent impov. always nice to hear the Beast being played.
    " The essance of reproduction,to feel and re-create that which was felt and impared by the creater,does not exclude- within natural limitations-the assertion of creative power" - Dr. Hugo Goldschmidt.

    I wish you the Best for each day, now and always.

    Bill

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