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Kilgen Opus 7722 - Conversion of a Pipe Organ Console to VPO - Part 1

JayR

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Kilgen Opus 7722 - Conversion of a Pipe Organ Console to VPO

After having played my converted 2-manual Moller pipe organ console, our Church organist expressed an interest in having a virtual pipe organ console for himself. As luck would have it, we were offered a 3-manual Kilgen console built in 1955. I am now in the process of converting this console to MIDI for use as a virtual pipe organ. I have decided to create this thread in an effort to record the process of converting a pipe organ console for use as a VPO so that members of this forum will have a reference and guide for their own conversion projects.

PROJECT SCOPE:
I will be converting this 3-manual console for use as a virtual pipe organ using the HWCE2X, Bundle 1 from MIDI Gadgets Boutique (http://www.midiboutique.com). All keys, stops, couplers, expression pedals, and piston controls will be sent to the MIDI controllers. However, all of the electro-magnet operation of the combination action will be preserved. For console testing and development, GrandOrgue, with free pipe samples, will be used as the organ sound generating software. Hauptwerk, with an adequate commercial sample set, will eventually be used as the permanent sound generation solution. Where ever possible, all original equipment will be preserved and utilized in the final VPO.

CONSOLE DELIVERY:
When I first laid eyes on this console, it was delivered in a trailer. It had been disassembled and stored for several weeks. So, I had no idea of what I was facing with this project since I had not seen the console in its original condition. All of the wires leading to the stop jambs and the manuals had been cut. On the bright side, the fact that the console had been disassembled made it easy to move into its new home.

CONSOLE OVERVIEW:
This console is quite massive. The stop jams have a total of 70 stops and couplers. There are 13 toe pistons and 5 to 11 pistons per manual. There is also a cancel per division, along with a general cancel. The expression pedals consist of Choir/Great and Swell. There is also a Crescendo pedal. On one jamb, there is a 6-position Chimes switch. There are pilot indicators for Wind, Crescendo, and Sfortz. The on/off switch is somewhat unusual in that it consists of two momentary pushbutton switches labeled Start and Stop. All of these original features will be preserved and used in the final organ project.

CONVERSION STEP 1 – POWER REQUIREMENTS:
When a console has been removed from its original home, odds are the power source has been disconnected. This makes it a little difficult to determine the power requirements for the console. On this particular console, there is a rather large solenoid per stop jamb. What is unusual about these solenoids is they have a center tap on the coil. So, I took a UPS battery and a multi-meter and measured the current required to activate one of these solenoids. The amperage through the full coil measured comfortably under 6 amps and the center tap measurement was under 3 amps. I am assuming that the center tap is used for divisional pistons/cancels and the full coil is used for general pistons/cancels. When the generals are pressed, the current draw for both solenoids should be 12 amps.
As part of the combination action, there are 13 electromagnets per division. Each one of these electromagnets draws 0.5 amps. When all four divisions are triggered the total current draw for these electromagnets should be 2 amps.
There are 4 relays that control the pistons and one that controls the Great to Pedal Reversible. These relays draw 0.25 amps each.
The MIDI controllers are rated for a 0.5 amp power supply. The indicator lamps are rated for 2 watts each, which is about 0.2 amps per bulb at 12 volts DC.
So, the total power consumption of the console at 12 volts DC should fall just under 17 amps when a general piston is held. This is a fair amount of power; but considering some 650-watt PC power supplies can output 12 volts DC at 52 amps, 17 amps should be feasible without too much cost.

CONVERSION STEP 2 – RECONNECTING & REWIRING - Part 1
Since the wires to the stop jams were cleanly cut, and the connections per division fell under 25 wires per connection, I decided to use DB-type connectors and keep the existing wiring. For the manuals, there are way too many wires per bundle for these types of connectors. So, I will abandon this wiring and run ribbon cable directly from the keys to the MIDI controllers. I am currently in this phase of the project.

More to come…
 
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Dorsetmike

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Looks like it could be a fun project. Do you have any sample sets in mind as yet or will you be selecting ranks from more than one set?

Best of luck anyway.
 

JayR

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I will be using the Enigma wet set for most of the pipes initially. It looks as though I will eventually have to go with the Salisbury Cathedral when we move onto Hauptwerk.
 

Dorsetmike

Member
I found I had to extend the top end of the Enigma samples by 5 notes, otherwise excellent. I combined selected stops from Enigma and Steihr Mockers for Grand Orgue.
 

Ghekorg7 (Ret)

Rear Admiral Appassionata (Ret)
Hi Jay !
Quite impressive !!

Wet Enigma is very good, Salisbury one of the best and Mike's hybrid amazing.
But whatever VPO program in use it's my belief that it needs a good reverberation plug-in or hardwere rack and high quality amplification/speaker system.

Try Enigma dry with SIR2 cathedral true stereo impulse responce. The result is centuries better than the Enigma wet !!

My best wishes for a big success in your adventure my friend !
Cheers
Panos
 

wljmrbill

Member
will be interesting to follow..often thought about this for myself..I have an old conn that might be worth the trouble setting up..for VPO.
 

JayR

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To Contratrombone64 (Love that Moniker!):

I wish it were a matter of too much time on my hands... I have been wiring the manuals when I take off for lunch and after my kids go to bed;)

When I come across a real console, it's too hard for me to see it go to waste. They are extremly complex and so much work went into them. Also, from their feel you just can't beat them for use in a VPO:D But they are a b-i-t-:eek::eek: to move!

Thanks for reading my thread!

Jay
 

Ghekorg7 (Ret)

Rear Admiral Appassionata (Ret)
Hi Jay ! A pleasure to read !

I got in my basement an old Lowrey T2 organ, in a very sad condition _ pedalboard stolen..., can't get el power, upper 3 1/2 oct keyboard almost separated from 4 oct lower, but wooden flat top is still ok.

Is it worth starting a conversion to VPO ? In it's condition I think's gonna cost much ...
 

JayR

New member
To Panos:

Panos,

Not even factoring the computer and software costs, a conversion like the one I am in the process of doing will cost somewhere around $1000 USD. It sounds like the console you have may cost much more than that to fix. With that in mind, it may not be worth the cost of upgrading to a VPO. Whereas the pipe organ consoles I have been working with would cost $25,000 to $50,000 to replace, with something of comparable quality. I am not sure how things are going in Greece, but here in the USA, a lot of older churches are abondoning their pipe organs and replacing them with electronic organs, if at all. I would suggest getting the word out that you are looking for a pipe organ console. You never know... Someone may practically come begging you to take one off their hands!

Thanks for the post!
Jay
 

JayR

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CONVERSION STEP 2 – RECONNECTING & REWIRING - Part 2

In the consoles I have seen so far, all of the keypoints are terminated to a common termination point before the wires are passed to the actual pipe valves. I will call this point the termination board for lack of a better term. Each connection of the termination board is labeled per each key, stop, coupler, shade step, etc. In an ideal setting, none of the keypoint wires would be cut, and all of the wiring to the MIDI controllers would originate from the termination board. This would make the wiring very easy. However, on the console I am currently working on, all of the wires leading to the manuals have been cut. Therefore, I found it easier and more economical to bypass the original wiring to the manuals.

If you look at the attached pictures, you will get an idea of how I ran the wires for the manuals. What is important to note here is that pipe organ manuals have very complex wiring that is not necessary for a VPO. For instance, these manuals have 4 to 5 contacts per key. These contacts are not for redundancy. Instead, the extra contacts are for couplers and borrowing. Since these functionalities can and should be defined in the software (GrandOrgue or Hauptwerk), there is no need to connect any of these additional contacts. Only the main contact, in my case the rear-most contact, is the one that needs to be connected to the MIDI controllers. In addition, all of the solenoids that control the couplers need to be disconnected and the coupler rails need to be positioned in their "off" or "disengaged" state.

For these manuals, I left the original wiring as a guide to run the new ribbon cable. I passed each wire through the original holes and soldered the conductor directly to the contact per each key.

The MIDI Gadgets Boutique MIDI controllers expect each keypoint to be connected to ground when a key is pressed. Therefore, all of the common busses need to be tied to ground. Depending upon the console's original wiring, it may require separating all of the bus wires from the wires leading to the solenoids, electromagnets, pilot lights, etc. In my Moller console, the original wiring had all of the busses tied to the positive output of the power supply. So, I had to separate the bus wires from the positive leads leading to the solenoids.

Once I have finished wiring the manuals, I will have to locate all of the points on the termination board for the stops, couplers, pistons, shades, and pedals. I will continue wiring from there to the MIDI Boards to accommodate all of the keypoints. The trick in this console will be to reconnect all of the wires for the combination action in the right order and verify that the polarity for the piston controls is correct for the MIDI controllers.

More Later...

Jay
 

Dorsetmike

Member
Not sure if to liken that to spaghetti or a bird's nest. Maybe for we older members, memories of mother's knitting patterns, ....... k1, p1, k 2 tog.

Certainly a major project!
 

ggoode.sa

New member
Hi Jay,

Thanks for posting your progress and giving us pictures to see all that you're doing :)

All the best for the continuation of the project!

GrahamG
 

JayR

New member
Moving Towards Console Reassembly

I've got the manuals wired - 183 contacts soldered! Some of the key contacts had carbon buildup and showed signs of arcing. This all had to be cleaned as much as possible. WD-40 makes a felt-tip, pen-style applicator. It is also useful for cleaning electronic contacts. So, I used this to clean all of the key contacts. Where the arcing occurred, I used a small file and lightly smoothed out the pitting. I made sure that all of the key contacts were bent in the correct fashion and straightened out any wires that were misshaped.

Once I re-mate the contacts to their respective manuals, I will be prepared to reassemble the console. The wiring is still not complete, but I can continue wiring the remainder of the console from the rear with the manuals and the jambs in place. This project is now starting to get exciting because, for the first time, we are going to see the console in its complete state!

Still more to come...

Jay
 

Dorsetmike

Member
Jay, sounds like a fibreglass "pen" might come in handy for cleaning contacts and prior to soldering, like a propelling pencil but with a bundle of fibreglass fibres in place of pencil lead.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/FIBREGLASS-PEN-REFILL-MODELLING-SOLDERING/dp/B002UPK5BM

(the link is to Amazon UK, Amazon.com or other suppliers should also carry them)

For less abrasive contact cleaning, especially PCB edge connectors, a normal pencil rubber eraser can work well.

Another handy cleaning device is sold for rail modellers for cleaning the track, like a pencil eraser but contains a mild abrasive.
 

JayR

New member
Mike,

Thanks for the link. I actually had a fiberglass pen in mind when I came across the WD-40 with the felt-tip applicator; but I was unable to find one in any of the stores around here. I think I received a fiberglass pen as a promotional item from a vendor, but I can't seem to relocate it either:p

Jay
 

JayR

New member
Now that the jambs and manuals have been wired, we were able to assemble most of the console and see it together (for the most-part) for the first time. The organist arranged the console at an angle next to his grand piano. It looks really cool and fits well in his conservatory.

At this point, there are still a tremendous number of wires to connect. The jambs are only haflway wired in that the mating connectors from the console still need to be soldered. This will require tracing down each wire, one-at-a-time. I also need to connect the pistons. At that point, I will attach a couple of 7-amp, 12-volt batteries in parallel and test the console's combination action. There is still a long road ahead, but we are beginning to see progress!

Jay
 

JayR

New member
Part 2 - New Home for Console...

Our organist decided to donate his organ console to a local school as he did not want to move it to his new house. This gave me an opportunity to finish the work I started in 2010. For the most-part, the organ is now fully playable. All of the original stops and couplers are connected and programmed through MIDI into GrandOrgue. The expression pedals are working flawlessly. I now have the divisionals and generals connected, cleaned, and working. The Sforzando and General Cancel can now be used without locking up the MIDI controllers. All I have left to do is clean some troublesome key contacts, reconnect the Crescendo pedal to the stops as per the organist's specifications, connect a couple of switches to the MIDI controller for ornamentation stops, and work out a solution for the Chimes volume control. At that point, I will have completely converted a 60-year-old organ console to work with GrandOrgue - retaining all original electromechanical parts and functionality. I am really excited to be nearing the end of a long, but wonderfully rewarding project! Attached are some pictures of the console...
Kilgen01.jpgKilgen02.jpg
 
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wljmrbill

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Must be rewarding to be nearing the end of a long and I would guess somewhat difficult procedure. Congrats
 
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