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    A couple of questions

    Hi there everyone,

    I've been playing with and on some VPOs of late and there are a few things I'd like to know. Maybe someone here will be able to help.

    Is it possible to open GO or HW* in Reaper?

    Is it possible to import a MIDI file to GO/HW?

    When I'm using HW it sometimes seems very quiet. Is there a master volume silder of some kind or is it something that I might be doing wrong?


    * I'm using a Hauptwerk 3.30 free edition.
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    Hi Mat, not being a player I have to use MIDI files. I play them via Finalé, though I expect any similar notation software would do the same.

    Set the Finalé output to a MIDI Yoke channel, set GO input to the same MIDI yoke channel. Import the MIDI file to Finalé and start play in Finalé. You can also play direct from Finalé notation files.
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    Hi Mat,

    1) Hauptwerk VST can be opened in Reaper

    2) No, but Mike has given you one of the possibilies to play MIDI into GO or HW. If you have virtual midi ports installed (MIDI Yoke, Maple, LoopBe) then you can interface any MIDI program (Reaper, Finale, etc.) with GO or HW and record/play.

    You can also interface GO or HW with jOrgan and use the jOrgan MIDI recorder to record and play back what you play.

    There are two ways to increase the volume of the organ playing in HW, one is in the general settings - this will affect ALL the organs that you load [General Settings -> Audio Outputs -> speaker level adjust dB], the other is in the Organ settings -this will just affect the organ currently loaded [Organ Settings -> General options -> Master level adjust dB].

    Hope that helps!
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    Hi Matt !

    I came to rescue !

    See my older post here : Hauptwerk using the VSTi version. Has all the answers you need.

    As for midi files do this (after you read the above thread):
    Open HW3 in Reaper and select the organ you want. Set the stops as per midi file need and then open an audio track in (no2, no1 is HW3). Then import a media file (click there and select from browser the midi file you want).
    You may need to configure the midi channels in HW or in the Media track to listen ok the file.
    Then it's easy to play it, even record it if you like as wav or mp3 (download Lame_enc.dll for mp3 > Reaper links you to).

    For GrandOrgue is not possible because there's not a VSTi version. The plans for this say at version 4 or 5.......
    You can record the performance though. Even play a midi file from an external sequencer connected to your computer.


    When HW3 is low on volume in some organs, go to Organ settings (not general) and adjust the volume. Usually HW3 sets are default at -10.00. Go to 0.00 or -3.00/-2.00 and be ok. Save the chaqnge so next time you load the same organ the settings you made are there !

    I managed to play some midi files in jOrgan's recorder. Not all midi files can be played and cannot be a tempo change......
    I'll include one in my new Oberhausbergen 311FS or Russell 311FS dispositions later this week when I'll upload it.

    Hope I helped
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    Graham, I changed the volume in General options from -10.00 to + 5.00. It's much better now.

    Panos, I'll have a look at your thread later when I have more time on my hands, that's for sure. I still have to sort out this whole SIR2 thing.

    Mike, I hadn't heard of MIDI Yoke until now. I was hoping I wouldn't have to install any additional software. Oh, well...

    Anyway, thnx everyone. I'm sure I'll soon be back with more questions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mat View Post
    Graham, I changed the volume in General options from -10.00 to + 5.00. It's much better now.

    Panos, I'll have a look at your thread later when I have more time on my hands, that's for sure. I still have to sort out this whole SIR2 thing.

    Mike, I hadn't heard of MIDI Yoke until now. I was hoping I wouldn't have to install any additional software. Oh, well...

    Anyway, thnx everyone. I'm sure I'll soon be back with more questions.
    Mat there's no need to install midi ox or any other softwere.
    Is simple : HW3+Reaper (371 latest)+SIR2. Nothing else.
    And your midi files of course.
    As you see I didn't tell you any sets for HW3, cause there's St.Anne's included.
    Also there's no need to seek for extra impulse responces, cause SIR2 has few but some of the greatest there are (Penguin...).

    Aaaaah, I assume you got Asio4all installed, no? If no you must, sends latency to almost zero. Reaper wants Asio anyway...

    Ask me whatever you want, I'm using these 3 apps a lot for composing and performing and recording of course !
    I just want the GO v5 with a VSTi option.....I'll wait

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    Hey Panos,

    Yes, I have Asio4all installed.

    I haven't read your thread yet but I just remembered what (I think) I had to do to open HW in Reaper. I copied Hauptwerk.dll file to Reaper's VST folder. And now when I create a new instrument (HW) in Reaper, every few seconds a high pitched sound occurs. And that's just one of the issues I'm having trouble with.

    It'll take time before I have it all up and running.
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    Hi Matt,

    When using the VST version of HW you need to set what the defualt load edition is. It sounds like yours is set to the Basic or Advanced trial editions that have the 'bell' sound at irritating intervals.

    Go to Menu -> General Settings -> General options -> Default unlicensed edition and select 'Free Edition' from the drop down.

    Restart the VST and the bell sound should be gone as you will now using the Free Edition.

    Hope that helped,

    GrahamG

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    It helped, indeed. Thanks a lot, Graham.

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    Yes, this was my first problem too. HW3 vsti is by default set in advanced mode...with this ring sounding all the time.
    Imagine to add SIR demo version with it's bell too.....madness, you want to smash something

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    I'd installed SIR2 and had a go with HW. Still don't know how to set it up so it'll sound good with st. Anne's samples, though.

    Also, is it possible to have HW running on two separate tracks in Reaper? I keep getting a message that it's not. And is it just me or HW shortcuts (ctrl+N and such) don't work while using Reaper?
    Last edited by Mat; Oct-12-2010 at 15:48.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mat View Post
    I'd installed SIR2 and had a go with HW. Still don't know how to set it up so it'll sound good with st. Anne's samples, though.

    Also, is it possible to have HW running on two separate tracks in Reaper? I keep getting a message that it's not. And is it just me or HW shortcuts (ctrl+N and such) don't work while using Reaper?
    Hi Mat.

    Do this.

    Load St.Anne's cutting all the release samples (simulated dry 120ms not full normal samples). This way you end up with a completly dry St.Annes.
    Select a stop, say SmallOpenDiapason 8'.

    Now open SIR2 vst on a second reaper track (first track is HW)
    Load : true stereo Church impulse responce. Close (off) the dry sound on SIR2 and raise a bit the wet to -8.0db.

    Go to HWwith St.Anne loaded track 1.
    Here click on io button.
    Window opens, click add new send select SIR2.
    Here decide if you want pre or post fader. I usualy select pre fader, so if I close the volume of the instrument the reverb stays on and it's not closing along with .
    Now close this io window.

    Play with St.Anne. You'll hear the great Cathedral.... I can play hours like this.

    I do the same with GrandOrgue using jack portaudio and connection kit to send the audio out of GO to SIR2. Excellent !

    For your other question, PLEASE read my thread. Your answer is laying there...

    Have many pleasing hours my friend
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    Hi again folks,

    Got another one. As you might remember from my earlier posts, I only have one keyboard. There are lots of buttons, sliders, etc. on it. Two of them are Global Channel and Channel Assign. I was wondering if I could use them to switch channels while using HW. I would like to switch between Great and Pedal without having to go through the drop down menus on HW bar. Is it even possible to assign one button to do that for me?

    I work on M-Audio Keystation Pro 88.

    P.S. Panos, have you tried working with different temperaments yet? I've just discovered them...
    Last edited by Mat; Dec-28-2010 at 01:44.

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    Hi Mat !
    Long time no..... talk. Accept my deepest wishes for a happy and healthy new year.

    I switched most of my HW3.3 organs to improved MeanTone temperament long ago....
    My main organ for practice and enjoy, except my own jOrgan custom and GrandOrgue custom (2GB heavy...), is the Velesovo set along with new 1m/p Smecno.
    Now that I got MYCO lite two months ago, I study Jean-Paul's instructions to build a custom one for HW3.3 using Velesovo, Smecno and St.Maximine positiv together.....
    I stuck with this MeanTone alright....

    Assignments in HW are smooth and many. My good friend Spyros works for M-Audio Greece. I'll pass one of these days with my lap to check Keystations, also Axiom as from a first pass I saw that the keyboard in Axiom is much like an original pipe organ in size and responce (not wooden though....).

    So you'll have to wait a bit. But with my holidays' CME U-Key Mk.II I could control Oostervijverd's stops from my 8 drum pads..... Gooood ! Feels like I'm playin' the original 49 note manual and 8 stops organ !

    best regards
    Panos

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