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    I have had no musical trainig at all, so my opinion is only based on my appreciation of their music. And there Brahms wins hands down for me. In terms of symphonies, I like only Beethoven's sixth better than Brahms' fabulous four, with his fifth on par, and the rest below (some way below). Their concertos are at a similar high level, but in choral music Ein Deutsches Requiem outshines everything Ludwig did for me (including the Missa Solemnis and Fidelio). Piano music maybe a slight edge to Ludwig, but I am not crazy about that genre anyway. But it is in chamber music that Brahms really shines, and outclasses even the string quartets (the only sub-genre in chamber music where I prefer Beethoven).

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    Hi, Art Rock, this is off topic but I like your Porcupine Tree Avatar. As for Brahms and Beethoven, I too prefer Brahms. Although not liking Beethoven for a classical musical listener is considered a sin

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nima View Post
    I sincerely am sorry if I offended you, please forgive me. I do not play an instrument though I am trying to learn the Santur which is an Middle-Eastern instrument.
    Concider it forgotten Nima, The Santur will be an interesting instrument to learn but you won't be playing much Brahms on it
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    Quote Originally Posted by J.H.C. View Post
    Concider it forgotten Nima, The Santur will be an interesting instrument to learn but you won't be playing much Brahms on it

    Well, thank you. No... Brahms wouldn't go very well on Satur, would it? By the way, what is your name?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Art Rock View Post
    But it is in chamber music that Brahms really shines, and outclasses even the string quartets (the only sub-genre in chamber music where I prefer Beethoven).
    I do not quite understand Art Rock are you saying Brahms St Qts are better than LvB St Qts ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nima View Post
    Well, thank you. No... Brahms wouldn't go very well on Satur, would it? By the way, what is your name?
    Nima my tag is Colin, now how about putting some info on your profile page otherwise we might get the wrong impression
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    Quote Originally Posted by J.H.C. View Post
    I do not quite understand Art Rock are you saying Brahms St Qts are better than LvB St Qts ?
    No, I meant that only in string quartets I prefer Beethoven over Brahms. All other chamber music it's Brahms for me. As a result, Brahms is my preference in chamber music over all.

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    Oh, you got me worried for a moment, Brahms Piano trios are very good and the Violin sonatas, really its just his symphonies that I don't rate very much as I said in an earlier post.
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