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    I like this very much

    I like this work very very much:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PFq_rlo2RxM
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p-TVGNahYxs

    If possible listen to it 3 times...It is difficult to find the beauty of the piece at first.

    Enjoy,

    Martin

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    well ... A little hard for me to listen to for the first time.. This is not my styler of music for sure or just an old fiddey-duddy.sorry.
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    I do admire the man and find his work fascinating, but it is too discordant for me. Listen three times? Maybe once a year

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    I just saw the name Schoenberg appear and cancelled before my ears got assaulted. I do the same for Gorecki, Einaudi, Paart and a few others.
    Cheers MIKE.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dorsetmike View Post
    I just saw the name Schoenberg appear and cancelled before my ears got assaulted. I do the same for Gorecki, Einaudi, Paart and a few others.
    Then you admitted being lost quite soon! (I also felt lost many years ago...) Schönberg or Schoenberg is not a bad word...It is music....music that you should chew many times before swallowing...It is great music...Don't close your mind! Closing your mind is limiting yourself...Limiting yourself is living less intensely...and for me living less intensely is not worth living...What about you? This is a challenge! I like challenges, do you?

    Sincerely,

    Martin


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    I rather liked the pieces ... but then I also love Messiaen as well.

    Some of the 'modern' organ pieces I encounter are rather unique ... it piques the attention of my avid listeners when used as a prelude in a church service. I oft get compliments for using 'modern' organ compositions. Of course, my congregation also loves Bach, Buxtehude and Pachelbel.
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    I am glad to hear that

    Quote Originally Posted by Krummhorn View Post
    I rather liked the pieces ... but then I also love Messiaen as well.

    Some of the 'modern' organ pieces I encounter are rather unique ... it piques the attention of my avid listeners when used as a prelude in a church service. I oft get compliments for using 'modern' organ compositions. Of course, my congregation also loves Bach, Buxtehude and Pachelbel.
    You are an open minded man...(young in your heart). I like Messiaen but after a while I became a bit more tired of his music...The birds stuff (les oiseaux) is too long...I love Turangalila and the quartet for the end of time

    Martin

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    I'm 77 on Saturday and I've been around long enough to know what I like and what I don't like, so for however many years I have left I will continue listening to what I know I will enjoy and avoid the more cacophonous noises that some people try and pass off as music. I will sometimes listen to a new composition but as soon as it becomes obvious to me that it is not to my liking it gets switched off, this applies to classical, jazz or pop/rock.

    At the moment I am enjoying Organ voluntaries and concertos by John Stanley as well as other baroque keyboard works, interspersed with some jazz and swing.
    Cheers MIKE.

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    I quite agree Mike, on John Stanley ... always a pleasure to play and listen to.
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    Mike, Happy Birthday and may you have many, many more to come!
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    If you use last.fm, there are 4 John Stanley CDs, One of Ton Koopman playing voluntaries from op 5,6 & 7 on the organ of St Mary's at Rotherhithe, a period instrument,

    http://www.last.fm/music/John+Stanle...es%2C+Opp.+5-7

    Opus 10 concertos, Franz Lehrendorfer

    http://www.last.fm/music/John+Stanle...rtos%2C+Op.+10

    More voluntaries, Richard Marlow at trinity College Cambridge

    The other JS CD on last.fm is the opus 2 concertos, but arranged for strings, an alternative for the Opus 2 concertos is from the Baroque Music Library, some with organ some harpsichord, download for $5.99

    http://www.baroquemusiclibrary.com/01Web.html

    Also using the organ at St Mary's Rotherhithe
    Cheers MIKE.

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    Hi Martin,

    I enjoyed the music very much, thanks for the links !
    My favourite composer is Dmitri Shostakovich, so you undrerstand, why.

    The variations on a recitativ are very deep down in soul of the composer. As Shoenberg was at the end of his life he may did his way back to the start of the whole voyage through the whole work.

    With contemporary music there's always the problem of clear theme melody.
    As Stravinsky wrote, melody is the 1st essential element of music after rythm of course. Then comes harmony and the talent of positioning the voices together, like Beethoven had. But Verdi on the other hand had the talent of melody.
    So, my approach on music works is this, but there are pieces that I like without knowing why, they just speak to my soul.

    There are many works from our beloved Bach, Bux, Pach, Stanley ect that they don't have any reason to exist, like another brick on the wall. One of the same, just a change of key and scales.
    And this is true, as they had to live in a world of high rich and high poor and they had to compose from request and get paid for living.

    Have you seen Messianen at the organ improvising with the mixtures ? (!!!)
    It's at least inspiring.
    I wish I could see Bux improvising and Sebastian performing....

    Have fun !
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    Happy birthday Mike !!!

    It's already Saturday here my friend.

    Ton Coopman's performance on Stanley its just superb. The organ speaks straight to the heart and indeed I gave more attention on some of the pieces, I haven't noticed before.
    It's the performer's talent......

    Cheers and all the best !
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    Well...

    Quote Originally Posted by Ghekorg7 View Post
    Hi Martin,

    I enjoyed the music very much, thanks for the links !
    My favourite composer is Dmitri Shostakovich, so you undrerstand, why.

    The variations on a recitativ are very deep down in soul of the composer. As Shoenberg was at the end of his life he may did his way back to the start of the whole voyage through the whole work.

    With contemporary music there's always the problem of clear theme melody.
    As Stravinsky wrote, melody is the 1st essential element of music after rythm of course. Then comes harmony and the talent of positioning the voices together, like Beethoven had. But Verdi on the other hand had the talent of melody.
    So, my approach on music works is this, but there are pieces that I like without knowing why, they just speak to my soul.

    There are many works from our beloved Bach, Bux, Pach, Stanley ect that they don't have any reason to exist, like another brick on the wall. One of the same, just a change of key and scales.
    And this is true, as they had to live in a world of high rich and high poor and they had to compose from request and get paid for living.

    Have you seen Messianen at the organ improvising with the mixtures ? (!!!)
    It's at least inspiring.
    I wish I could see Bux improvising and Sebastian performing....

    Have fun !
    Panos

    I'm glad you enjoyed this...I love Shostakovich but less than I did 30 years ago...I didn't like his 15th symphony and other stuff... His 15th is the complex of the dodecaphonic guy he could never be...as Stravinsky with Agon, Threni, etc...Shostakovich last period is not deep enough...I like deeper music...that's why I like this organ piece by Arnold Schönberg.
    I had many idols when I was younger...Now they have changed, Mozart, Wagner, Zemlinsky and Schreker became my new idols...I returned to a more classical music...But still Alban Berg and Egon Wellesz are my "idols"...I lik emany works by Schönberg, but not all of them. I lik every much Webern but not all of them, I also like Messiaen...but not all....

    I could follow all night, I prefer to stop there.

    Sincerely,

    Martin....difficult to follow.

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