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    copyright and music

    Here's an interesting insite into copyright (pertaining to music, though it applies to all genres of intellectual property), from the wisdom that is the National Library of Australia

    http://www.nla.gov.au/copiesdirect/h...ightmusic.html
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    How about recorded music? our government is to make free d/l of music illegal in Sept this year, i,e if you do a torrent d/l just for yourself then you will be breaking the law it says nothing that I am aware of about making copies of a CD (that you have purchased) for your mates, which is the same thing in principle but of course impossible to police.

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    Hey Colin ... same rule applies to recorded music (so long as it's within the boundaries of the copyright law of the country concerned: 70 years for Australia, though 50 years for the Septic Tanks).
    I'm not an atheist and I don't think I can call myself a pantheist. We are in the position of a little child entering a huge library filled with books in many different languages. The child knows someone must have written those books. It does not know how. The child dimly suspects a mysterious order in the arrangement of the books but doesn't know what it is. That, it seems to me, is the attitude of even the most intelligent human being toward God.
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    I think the music industry need a shake up they are still in the 20th century

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    The Australian rules sound draconian. I wonder if some little country could get round these rules by making their own rules up and selling rights cheaply. Could be a good source of income.

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    Quote Originally Posted by teddy View Post
    . . . I wonder if some little country could get round these rules by making their own rules up and selling rights cheaply. Could be a good source of income.

    teddy
    I think there are, and have been, some countries that do this (not necessarily for profit) currently, as we get spammers from those places posting links to free downloads of recent copyrighted movies. Since this forum originates from within Denmark, Danish Copyright Law applies, which reads in a nutshell:

    Quote Originally Posted by Consolidated Act No. 202
    63.−(1) The copyright in a work shall last for 70 years after the year of the author’s death or . . . after the year of death of the last surviving author. With regard to cinematographic works the copyright, however, shall last for 70 years after the year of death of the last of the following persons to survive:
    (i) the principal director;
    (ii) the author of the script;
    (iii) the author of the dialogue; and
    (iv) the composer of music specifically created for use in the cinematographic work.
    With the above ammunition at our disposal, we can (and do) prohibit the linking of such copyrighted works on this forum.
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    Even Super Markets and Service station are supposed to pay for playing music to the customers, long live bureaucracy

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    It will, Colin. No need to encourage it...
    Music expresses that which cannot be put into words and that which cannot remain silent.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JHC View Post
    Even Super Markets and Service station are supposed to pay for playing music to the customers, long live bureaucracy
    I wonder if will apply to hotels in Salzburg, who play Mozart in the elevators ...

    Mozart as elevator music Almost as bad as Mahler on a jukebox
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    Quote Originally Posted by JHC View Post
    Even Super Markets and Service station are supposed to pay for playing music to the customers, long live bureaucracy
    Yes. For example, now I'm listening to an on-line radio station where users can post their own mixes of any music. This is a great idea, you don't listen to the random selection (as on last.fm) but rather to hand-picked mix that someone compiled from their favorite songs. However, a website has to pay about $10,000 per year (or month?) for just playing music. It doesn't affect sales like torrents - you can't listen to a whole album or a song you want, - and even stimulates them, however industry is drawing out the money from guys who, in fact, promote good music...

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    When I was in the UK there was the 'Performing Right Society' that you had to notify every time you played a gig, you had to give them a list of what you were playing. There just has to be a better and fairer way for everyone, I do not think you will ever stop piracy from the www so make music cheaper, so good night and now for a nice Red

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