Think these should fit the bill:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=79xeGcBBdf4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vio-TjMi5_s&
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qRjT4h7F_jw
Think these should fit the bill:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=79xeGcBBdf4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vio-TjMi5_s&
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qRjT4h7F_jw
Great links Mat. Which of these musicians were classical artists? I was amazed that Dudley Moore was a skilled pipe organist. Screamin Jay Hawkins trained in opera.
teddy
Thanks, Teddy. I don't know if any of these musicians were classically trained, as in my previous post I was just giving examples to Colin's a bit off-topic question, provoked by an earlier OT discussion we were having here. But I'm glad you enjoyed them anyway.
Hope we've not completely ruined your thread, Rob.
Well, you could have confused a stupid person.
teddy
Hi Colin,
I dont know if you're asking the question of Mat or myself, but for what its worth here's my response.
Dixieland is assuredly trad jazz though in general I feel it may be a bit breezier and less bluesy than the slightly earlier
material of the likes of King Oliver. (Bix rather than Louis). Does that sound too fatuous - lets have your opinion.
Incidentally although I introduced the track that Mat likes so much I personally disliked it - total discord. (Sorry Mat)
This is my idea of Dixieland http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lXMzl...yer_detailpage
Cheers John
@John it was just a general question to everyone.
These are just my thoughts, I always thought of it as the first jazz that came out of the brass band era which was influenced by the Slave rhythm and songs of an earlier time and then taken up by the brass musicians in the 1915-20 and became very popular in the 20’s by the “Flappers” etc the name “Traditional” came latter but I am not sure if it referred to a different style [the inclusion of wind, double bass and other instruments] I have read that it took its name from The “Original Dixieland Jazz Band” but that seems contentious. Or even the Mason-Dixie line which defined the boarder between Maryland and Pennsylvania and divided slave from non slave states?
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John.
Not my favourite style of jazz, but that was a nice piece
teddy
Colin/teddy,
I dont know enough about early jazz forms to talk about them too much, and my next comment may be totally misplaced,
but i've always had a feeling that the oldest form of jazz (lets call it original Trad for simplicity) was based on Black marching bands,
and that somewhat later the jazz of the ODJB came along (then like music - say Bix) and became called Dixieland and was basically
played by White musicians.
(I love it all and there is nothing racist intended by my comments, but racism existed in those times and may well have caused
a separation in the jazz forms of the times).
Cheers John
@John I think we are going in the right direction. When they added Piano, Banjo, String Bass, Clarinet etc this is when it became Trad IMO of course