Has anyone published BOOKS of music?

[musicalis]

you have a discussion board too I think

Hi Teo, you can talk with me on Facebook, search for j-paul verpeaux. Take care we are 2 men sharing this name, but the other one is not a musician.

I just requested 10 ISBNs, they'll be here soon, I hope Lulu will let me switch over to my own rather than theirs.

I think you can but I am not sure as I do not use ISBN for my books at Lulu.

Have you heard of the ISMN?

No, never. Thanks for the info.

Lulu has binding that has the staple in the middle, this is good for putting on the piano and playing. I haven't been able to get their spiral binding.. still working on that.

It is very easy to do. When you start a book (http://www.lulu.com/author/wizard/index.php) select "Coil-Bound".

Also I don't know if I can put the same book on more than one printer, or I should say DISTRIBUTE through more than one vehicle..

Why could you not ?

You said I can do what I want with my scores. What I want is: Put them in libraries or whatever safe places so that after the world ends and starts up again, my books and music will be still around somewhere. I don't know if libraries will take "unpublished" or "self-published" or if I should be approaching a real publisher.

Do you think middle age composers had real publishers ? Anyway, after the world end, what will you do with your scores if there are no more musicians and instruments to play them?

Friendly
J-Paul

[John Watt]

Being published or not being published, what's the difference?
If you're talking pre-computers, pre-digital, being published meant someone thought your book would make money,
or the world needed it for the benefit of all mankind.
That's like when record companies would pay a band to record, back when bands made money appearing live.
But what's publishing or recording now when you can do it at home with your own equipment?
Did you buy into the term "desktop publishing" when photocopiers got bigger?
There are still more potentials with saying I'm published.
That infers someone thought it was worth reading, reproducing and selling. Someone else, other than the author.
I don't think you can publish yourself. You can make your own copies, that's for sure.
But publishing? The actual word in proper English? No, you need someone else to publish you.
I think I'll click the "Post Quick Reply" function and let this domain publish these comments.

[Teo]

I reeeeally appreciate both of you taking the time to share thoughts on this. J-Paul, Lulu won't let me chose spiral bound for 8.5x11. I only got staple by first saying they are only for myself, and later changing it to available to everyone. I had to trick them to get that binding! Isaac Azimov wrote about "2nd Foundation," storing civilization so that after this one falls apart the next one will take less time. I only found out in 2007 that I have a pianist grandmother and she had a music professor / organist grandfather so I feel I have to fulfill some musical duty - share whatever "gift" I was given by them. It's being done now as I'm following your example.. I think I'll have 5 music books by the end of the year!

I like replying here because the whole thread is here. John LAC (Library Archives Canada) filled in the form for me, so I am a publishing company now. I truuuuly wish I knew what a real publishing company does. These will be "published" well, Amazon's CreateSpace only let me fill in todays date.. so they are published. But am I able to be in the "New Books" listing anywhere? I don't know where music publications have new titles listings to put myself in.. or have someone put me in.

A doctor friend or maybe lawyer friend will donate some of my books to libraries, but I wish I knew what publishers know instead of shooting blind you know?

A wonderful person Nina Bombardier I believe is her name, at Fantasy Studios in Berkeley gave a talk at UCBerkeley. She was saying how everyone recording at their friends hot tub / studio in Humbolt county or wherever they wanted, sure that's fine, but the quality is all gone. Record companies used to groom their artists.

OK that's all recording industry stuff.. I think more important is: Schubert never heard any of his symphonies played, because no one cared about him while he was alive - no one with any clout or connections. We are all so lucky he kept his symphonies all available for us. Liszt's opus 1 was lost for I think 150 years! Lucky someone still had it, and someone uploaded it to IMSLP.

Originally I went to Library Archives Canada and reading their pages it seemed they value Social Bookmarking, that is what first got me to check out Delicio.us, digg and those things. It is annoying though because I am not a fashion, I don't want a million clicks, I want to find people who are interested in music that I have spent many many hours getting easy to read, fun to play and educational as well as sounding nice. I've tried tweeting, digging, I even have myspace, linkedin, google+, and ready.. YouTube videos! They have all done exactly nothing (except I get friend requests from people with names I can't even repeat). What a real publisher does is what I want to know. Thanks Magle folks for these great forums so that I can ask this question, get out my grumbles, and often find solutions! J-Paul when there is time I really look forward to connecting with you more. Soon my new book will be here: https://www.createspace.com/3728591

Thanks to all for this opportunity to share and ask squestions

[musicalis]

Hi Teo
Thanks for this interesting post.
I miss time to do all what i want to do but will always be happy to read from you.
Have a nice week and make good music and publish it.
J-Paul

[Teo]

Bonjour J-Paul,
I have to admit, I got inspired by all the books you have and now I have 5 books! I've put the music books in Amazon instead of Lulu, but I've left 2 books in Lulu.
To get the ISBN numbers the Library Archives Canada simply listed me as a publisher, which is not what I wanted but it's done now. The 5 books are here:
http://givnology.ca and I'm all excited with my progress! On the other side, I've decided I don't care about distribution which I originally was so excited about. Why would I want critics and unfriendly people saying mean things? One rarely gets a kind word even though one is totally dedicated, you know?
Your kind words really mean a lot, and have meant a lot in the past. You are a real buddy and thanks gazillions and I wish you every success you wish
merci mon bon ami
Teo

[musicalis]

Thank for your message Théo. I received it with my telephone as I was having a nice week-end with my wife in Paris under the snow.
Let me offer you this picture of Charles Aznavour with myself. This is a real picture, not a fake, but Charles is not the real one, he is only a wax statue from the Museum Grévin.