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    Commodore con Forza Ghekorg7's Avatar
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    Hi Marc, thanks for the label info !

    Where did you find out that these chorale praeludes are now belived to be composed by Walther ??!
    How one can tell?
    Is there any new document with Walther's hand writing or signature?

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    Quote Originally Posted by musicalis View Post
    Oh Thanks !
    I didn't known Walther. He composed nice baroque music, really Bach 's style.
    Hello my lovely friend - yes, he's a revelation to me, too. Quite the contrapuntalist, like your good self!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ghekorg7 View Post
    Hi Marc, thanks for the label info !

    Where did you find out that these chorale praeludes are now belived to be composed by Walther ??!
    How one can tell?
    Is there any new document with Walther's hand writing or signature?
    The first surviving copies were in Walther's hand. (And one by Johann Tobias Krebs.)
    Mind you, the number of surving manuscripts in Bach's own hand are very small.
    The Neue Bach Ausgabe and the most recent BWV catalogue both have put these three in the third part of the BWV Anhang: works wrongly attributed to J.S. Bach.
    BWV 692, 693 and 748 have appeared in published collections of organ chorales by Johann Gottfried Walther since the beginning of the 20th century.

    Sources a.o.:
    http://www.bach-cantatas.com/CM/Ach-Gott-und-Herr.htm

    Books:
    Peter Williams, The Organ Music of J.S. Bach (2nd edition). Cambridge, 2003
    Bach Werke Verzeichnis: Kleine Ausgabe. Edited by Alfred Dürr, Yoshitake Kobayaski & Kirsten Beißwenger. Wiesbaden, 1998.
    Last edited by Marc; Sep-20-2011 at 17:37.

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    Marc,
    THANKS !
    Very usefull site, not only for what we discussing here, but for almost anyhting has to do with Grand Master's Cantatas/choral works and also for it gives info for a great number of composers and how anonymous' melodies have intergrated to the works.
    Walther's short biography found there has all I needed to have a good start on the matter.
    Best....
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    I read somewhere once a long time ago, that Bach's manuscripts were even found wrapped around saplings to keep them getting frost bite. Can't remembe where I read that or whether if was just folly.

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