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    Noëls

    Well I'm trying to start the annual hunt for Christmas music and I've run into a bit of a brick wall. I heard a recording of Les dix noëls de Provence by Guy Morançon. They are essentially a 20th century take on some traditional Provencal noëls (written specifically for French classical organ). My University (McGill in Montréal) happens to have a French classical organ and I've been desperately trying to get my hands on these elusive noëls, but they appear to be out of print. I've looked around online and in music stores and no one seems to have any left in stock (Though the online ones say they do until you try to actually order them).

    If you know of any other modern noëls (especially ones that would sound great on a French classical instrument) I'd love to hear your suggestions!

    Any other Christmas music you want to recommend is also great.

    (P.S. if you have copies of the Morançon noëls and you don't want them anymore, please send me a message!)

    Thanks!

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    Hey there aross30, really nice to see you posting here. I can't help you on this question, but Lars (krumhorn), the moderator and many others will, I'm sure. Welcome, again, really nice to see you here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Contratrombone64 View Post
    Hey there aross30, really nice to see you posting here. I can't help you on this question, but Lars (krumhorn), the moderator and many others will, I'm sure. Welcome, again, really nice to see you here.
    Many thanks! I'm so glad I found this forum. It's been infinitely useful so far!

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    Welcome aboard, Alex

    Here's a link to a really nice Noel by Daquin (D'Aquin in some circles).
    And more of these D'Aquin pieces edited by Alexandre Guilmant.

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    Another Guilmant is Noel Polonais ( variations on an Ancient Polish Christmas Carol) is a nice one too. I have it in a book entitled " Ecclesiae Organum .. Organ music for the church service" complied and edited by Dr. william C. Carl. ( 1956-John Curch Company) probably not in business now. I think some selections from Handel's "The Messiah" is always good too. Always I use festive stuff and familiar pieces as this is the once a year exposure for many people...LOL..Easter coming in 2nd. Our friend JSB has mnay selections that are good for Christmas sevices. old rule: as long as you like it and enjoy playing itthers will enjoy it too.
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    Hello aross30! OrganoPleno105 gave the link to his blog in another post.
    http://justanotherorganist.blogspot.com
    Well worth a look - and a listen! Not only does he give masses of information, he has included small samples of written music and also plays some (?most) of the
    pieces he mentions.

    One of the compositions I listened to (and watched him play) earlier was by Fleury - 'Variations sur un Noel Bourguignon'. Might be of interest to you. OrganoPleno105 also gives the link to purchase the book. Have ordered mine. Including postage to UK it is only costing me about £8.50.

    Jim (OrganoPleno105) if you're reading this, have been very interested in the parts of your blog I've so far had time to access.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wljmrbill View Post
    . . . I have it in a book entitled " Ecclesiae Organum ..
    Way cool ... I have the very same book. Has some very nice other gems in it too - one of my favorites is titled "Communion".

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    Personally I think the French Noels are only assocaited with Christmas in those countries where their melodies are used as Christmas songs. I never play them in Christmas time as the listeners don't hear any connection between them and Christmas. I prefer pieces based on familiar carols (Adeste fideles, Crusaders' Hymn, Vom himmel hoch etc.) and "local" Christmas melodies i.e. Finnish Christmas songs.
    A year ago i made a CD with Christmas organ music, and its content looks like this:

    1. Kurt Noack: Heinzelmännchens Wachtparade
    2. Howard Blake: Walking in the Air
    3. Richard Leibert: Under the Christmas Mistletoe
    4. David Lasky: Joy to the World
    5. - ’ ’ - The First Nowell
    6. - ’ ’ - Silent Night
    7. - ’ ’ - In Dulci Jubilo
    8. Folgert Zwaving: Joy to the World
    9. - ’ ’ - Vom Himmel hoch
    10. - ’ ’ - O du fröhliche
    11. Emil Juel-Frederiksen: Dejlig er Jorden (Crusaders’ Hymn)
    12. Jaap Niewenhuijse: Komt allen tezamen (Adeste)
    13. James Pethel: Away in a Manger
    14. Louis Lefébure-Wély: Venite adoremus
    15. Nico de Mes: The First Noël
    16. - ’ ’ - O Come, All Ye Faithful
    17. - ’ ’ - Silent Night! Holy Night!
    18. Martin Mans: U zij de glorie (Tochter Zion)
    19. - ’ ’ - Hoor, de eng’len (Angels We Have Heard on High)
    20. Ernst Richter: Wie schön leuchtet der Morgenstern
    21. Johann Sebastian Bach: Vom Himmel hoch BWV 700
    22. Marko Hakanpää: Improvisation on a Finnish Xmas Song
    23. Garth Edmundson: Toccata on Vom Himmel hoch

    There is quite a good selection at http://www.musicnotes.com/
    There are sound samples and previews of the music.

    Just search 'organ christmas'.

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    The association point you make is a good one FinnViking, for I was looking at Guilmant's 'Offertory in c minor on Christmas Carols' which
    didn't seem at all Christmas-sy to me!

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    Nikam, I'm glad you've read my blog and found it useful. It thrills me to hear that someone else is interested in the Fleury variations. It's a fantastic work!

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    Thumbs up

    ...... and my book arrived from California this morning, so exploration is the order of the day!! Couple of interesting Pachelbel pieces in there too.
    Thanks again for the link OP105.
    Last edited by Nikam; Nov-01-2011 at 16:17. Reason: Spelling!

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    Oh great news! Also there is a really nice other set of Noel Variations that is are shorted and much easier. Noel Ancien, check it out!

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    Yes! Had a look at that one yesterday and liked it. My battle at the moment is the Variation with feet on whole beats, right hand on quavers and left hand playing triplets . Brain strain indeed!

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    Oh yes I know! I think that and the fugue at the end were the most difficult of the set.

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    Hi Alex -

    Regarding your original query, I think the 2nd book of the Morancon Noels (numbers 6 to 10) is still available but the first book (numbers 1 to 5) is not so easy to get hold of. Both Allegro Music and di-arezzo say they can get the 2nd book, but 'music-direkt' seem to have both;

    http://www.musik-direkt.com/MORANCON...html?cPath=115

    Worth a try, but methinks you'll have to start saving up!
    Last edited by Oldromola; Nov-04-2011 at 21:49.

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