Jazz from around the World

[OLDUDE]

I hope that forum members will look for and offer tracks from a wide range of the World's Countries.
I will start things rolling with some jazz from Italy.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VOJkg...yer_detailpage

Cheers John

[teddy]

Will re=post this to get this thread on its way again.

http://youtu.be/c7jX0nTGlfE Sweden. EST and Round Midnight

teddy

[John Watt]

I'm sorry, but I've got to start by debating this thread theme.
I'm from Canada, lower Ontario, catching mostly American media and American infotainment.
They always say jazz is an American art form and was invented by Americans.

Considering that, what you're typing about jazz from other countries,
must be seen as other cultures using modern electronics to place their music along with American jazz.
I would still call jazz recordings of sitarists from India as raga, not New Age or Indian Jazz.
Indian Jazz? The average American would think that's a drunk Apache playing a sax around the campfire.

Yes, this might seem demanding, but as I say, this is what I see and read, most of the time.

And when you type jazz at me, I understand jazz as spontaneous improvisation.
People in other countries producing copies of pre-existing jazz is simply not jazz music,
whether it's American or Arctican.
Yeah, I'm Canadian, and the average Inuit is more tuned up than any American.

[stu]

Hi John,
This is Henry Texier, French bassist, and a long favourite of mine. Would this qualify?
There's a distinct African/African Indian feel in this track.http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...wyOEJEw#t=242s

[Mat]

I will repost as well.

Canadian pianist in Paris:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OqGuFfeAdgw

[teddy]

Well, maybe that will placate John Watt

teddy

[OLDUDE]

My, this must be a good thread - already we have controvery.
I must admit, when I suggested this thread , I had in mind jazz music (of any sub-genre), presenting samples of indigenous jazz.
However, I obviously havent thought it through too well, and who am I to prevent Forum members from handling the subject as they wish
with my blessing.
An individual comment to J.W. (Hi John, its good to have you back).
Its true that jass developed in the States (New Orleans to be precise) but even then its roots are partially derived from the parts of the world
from whence the originators stem. Africa mainly of course but Europe too. (Think Cajun and more lately, Latin America.)
Yes, when jazz extends to other countries there is inevitably going to be many similarities to American jazz music, (in its many forms).
However when researching for the thread (via Youtube I admit) it became apparent that differences do occur and National characteristics
do creep (or in some cases jump) in.
Finally, you use the term "spontaneous improvisation" and I am sure this is still important in solo contributions. But when it comes to many jazz
productions, you will notice the reference to "arranged by" which applies to most of them. Enough said.

Jazz from Nigeria http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HmCnO...yer_detailpage

Cheers John

[stu]

Sorry John seems like I goofed!!

Here's an African Band http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6EKHj...yer_detailpage

[gord]

hi j w, your reply to john (oldude) got me wondering. i think what you are saying is, only american jazz is the real thing. jazz from say france or italy is not, it is a copy. i am looking at my designer watch,it is not real,but a knock off. it looks good, works fine, and does the job,but is not a real one. so could foreign jazz be considered like knock off jazz then? it is something that never occured to me before. i have got to think about this. gord

[gord]

japanese hardbop
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NAk4K...eature=related

[gord]

although that japanese hardbop was quite good,i found something missing that i get when listening to the likes of coltrane,dexter or blakey.maybe j.w. is right in his assessment of foreign jazz. gord

[Mat]

...
Mat, I'm expecting a contribution from you to my new thread (world jazz) - I'm sure that you will have something of interest to show from your part of the world.
...

John, it'll be my pleasure.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0mzWJle0ppc
Will this do?

[OLDUDE]

Hi Mat,
That seems to be the sort of thing that I'm aiming at.
Remind me of where it comes from - Poland or russia or where ?
Hi gord,
This is obviously not Japanese musicians and I dont understand the writing-strangely enough.
I assume they are visitors to Japan and as such they are probably American Hardboppers.
We must surely listen to indigenous players to discover whether their music has anything different to it.

Cheers John

[OLDUDE]

Jazz from Israel http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2P6fV...yer_detailpage

[Mat]

Glad you liked it, John. It's Polish jazz in all its glory.