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    Prometheus by Scriabin

    Well gang,

    Here's Scriabin in a version that he "envisioned" and wrote in the score what he wanted:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V3B7u...eature=related


    This Scriabin music is really way too heady for me........
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    *Protagoras: "Truth is subjective. What is true for you, and what is true for me, is true for me. Your opinion is true by virtue of its being your opinion."

    *Socrates: "My opinion is: Truth is absolute, not opinion, and that you are in absolute error. Since this is my opinion, then according to your philosophy you must grant that it is true."

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    Wonderful post CD

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    What an ambitious project!. She certainly deserves her Doctorate based on that. With my great love for Russian music I enjoy Scriabin very much. This was a fascinating and a great performance. I live about 50 miles from Yale, too bad I dod not know about it. It would have been worth going to.
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    Hi GB,

    Yeah, she did her homework on that one. Scriabin's losing himself by his foray into Solipsism and Anthroposophy and Madame Blavatsky made me want to puke. 50 miles from New Haven, eh? Would that be Simsbury?
    *If a man wants God to hear his prayer quickly, then before he prays for anything else, even his own soul, when he stands and stretches out his hands towards God, he must pray with all his heart for his enemies. Through this action God will hear everything that he asks* -Abba Zeno-

    *Protagoras: "Truth is subjective. What is true for you, and what is true for me, is true for me. Your opinion is true by virtue of its being your opinion."

    *Socrates: "My opinion is: Truth is absolute, not opinion, and that you are in absolute error. Since this is my opinion, then according to your philosophy you must grant that it is true."

    "Improvisational Art": http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qSxVO3EoCRM

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    Very interesting:but not my "cup of tea" either. Thanks for posting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Corno Dolce View Post
    Hi GB,

    Yeah, she did her homework on that one. Scriabin's losing himself by his foray into Solipsism and Anthroposophy and Madame Blavatsky made me want to puke. 50 miles from New Haven, eh? Would that be Simsbury?
    No CD a little farther, about 15 miles further North in Westfield, Massachusetts. But you would pass through Simsbury which is a lovely town on the way.
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    You know you have reached Middle Age when it takes you longer to rest up than it did to get tired.

    If it sounds good; it is good

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    I know Simsbury because a gal I almost married grew up there.

    Back on topic: Scriabin's music, for me, is divided into 2 periods: pre-Solipsist and Solipsist. The pre-Solipsist is the barn-stormin' romantic e.g. D-sharp minor Etude. Solipsist is when he added terms like "White Mass" and "Black Mass" to his Sonatas. For me, it then becomes quite uninteresting to play his music - Yes, I can listen to it but it leaves me unmoved.
    *If a man wants God to hear his prayer quickly, then before he prays for anything else, even his own soul, when he stands and stretches out his hands towards God, he must pray with all his heart for his enemies. Through this action God will hear everything that he asks* -Abba Zeno-

    *Protagoras: "Truth is subjective. What is true for you, and what is true for me, is true for me. Your opinion is true by virtue of its being your opinion."

    *Socrates: "My opinion is: Truth is absolute, not opinion, and that you are in absolute error. Since this is my opinion, then according to your philosophy you must grant that it is true."

    "Improvisational Art": http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qSxVO3EoCRM

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    Well, there is little doubt that Scriabin developed some mental issues.
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    You know you have reached Middle Age when it takes you longer to rest up than it did to get tired.

    If it sounds good; it is good

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    Hi Rob,

    Mental issues? Maybe baby...I am thinking more in the lines of a confused "weltanschauung" - Of course, the one breeds into the other, ergo, If one has no grounding i.e. Faith, one is easily lead astray into cultural belief practices that are removed from the tradition in which one grew up in and ultimately one winds up "manufacturing" ones own egoist faith system, picking a little here, a little there - a la carte style - toss them together with some oil and vinegar and think "all is alright - if it feels good, do it". You'll go crazy trying to merge the Judaeo-Christian heritage with Buddhism(mahayana and hinayana) Zoroastrianism, Islam, Santeria, and tribal belief systems of Africa.

    Back on topic: Scriabin wasn't alone in his search for tonal colour - We all know Messiaen - and then Charles Tournemire who came to know Hindu music scales which he freely imported into his organ music e.g. 2nd and 5th movement of Sept Paroles du Xrist. The exception being that these men, being firm in Faith, understood to carefully separate the musical system from the belief system, and in so doing enriched the tonal vocabulary we know today.
    *If a man wants God to hear his prayer quickly, then before he prays for anything else, even his own soul, when he stands and stretches out his hands towards God, he must pray with all his heart for his enemies. Through this action God will hear everything that he asks* -Abba Zeno-

    *Protagoras: "Truth is subjective. What is true for you, and what is true for me, is true for me. Your opinion is true by virtue of its being your opinion."

    *Socrates: "My opinion is: Truth is absolute, not opinion, and that you are in absolute error. Since this is my opinion, then according to your philosophy you must grant that it is true."

    "Improvisational Art": http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qSxVO3EoCRM

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