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    Trivia question

    What musical link is there between J S Bach and William Croft?

    (apart from them being near contemporaries and both being organists and composers)

    No prizes!
    Cheers MIKE.

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    I'm glad there's no prizes or I'd be real frustrated.
    Normally, I don't look around the pipe organ forums,
    respecting those who perform on these historic instruments,
    and afraid of the awefull puns I'd be capable of committting,
    not that you haven't done them before.
    But I saw "Trivia question" and thought, okay, I can be real trivial.
    But asking about a musical link between J S Bach and William Croft?
    Maybe the real trivia question is, who is William Croft?
    Right now, I'm the musical link. Thanks for the clues, cluing me out.

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    Were they possibly related in some way, Mike?
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    The St. Anne hymn tune which Croft composed was used by JSB in one of his fugues.
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    Correct Rob, I thought you would be the one to know that. Although it is claimed that the similarity is not actually copied.

    St Anne is the tune to "O God our help in ages past" The Bach fugue is from BWV552

    Wiki entry for William Croft

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Croft

    The fugue

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    Good performance of this classic piece.Love the sound of the organ.. THanks
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    Mr. Bill -- If that is your first exposure to the St. Bavo organ, be it known that it is is a justly famous one, and the case is considered one of the finest ever put together. The organ dates from around the 1730's, and Mozart supposedly left his inscription on the music rack. (I haven't been there to verify that!!) It is known as the Muller organ (umlaut over the 'u'), he having been the builder.

    Oddly enough, as I understand it, the organ belongs to the city of Haarlem, which seems a rather odd arrangement.
    Last edited by dll927; Mar-31-2012 at 01:37.

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    Thanks Dill927..the Muller organ rings more bells..odd fact that the city and not the church owns the organ ..very interesting fact.."no separation of church and state there"..LOL
    ....To play only what is written is the domain of science. To realize what is not written is the domain of art."
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    Who is Will iam Croft?
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    Colin, see post #5 above for wiki link to Mr Croft
    Cheers MIKE.

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    Surely most users of this forum are aware that one can "Google" an unending number of famous organs and see pictures of them. St. Bavo is very much in that category.

    For nearly 39 years I lived in Los Angeles County. I wasn't raised there and don't live there any more. I have been to the Crystal Cathedral (of now rather unhappy fame) once, and to First Congregational of Los Angeles many times. Right after the Schlicker organ was installed in FCCLA I had season tickets to their organ concert series. And they have added even more since back in those days (early 1970's). The church itself is an architectural monument, and the organ is a sight to behold. It is supposedly the largest church organ in existence. Of course, as Albert Schweitzer once said, there are about 100 organs that are the largest, and nobody knows how many are the best!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by dll927 View Post
    Surely most users of this forum are aware that one can "Google" an unending number of famous organs and see pictures of them.
    Please no porn .........
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    None intended, not even by the chief assistant to the chief assistant of the assistant chief. Then again, beauracracy is another subject.

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