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    Quote Originally Posted by Corno Dolce View Post
    "Tragedy of German Music" - Well, I'll hop on over to Talk Classical and ease myself into that discussion.
    Let us know what you think of it and give a link if you would be so kind
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    Quote Originally Posted by JHC View Post
    Let us know what you think of it and give a link if you would be so kind
    I can't even find that discussion........Maybe Steve can give me the name of the thread - I don't have a clue...
    *If a man wants God to hear his prayer quickly, then before he prays for anything else, even his own soul, when he stands and stretches out his hands towards God, he must pray with all his heart for his enemies. Through this action God will hear everything that he asks* -Abba Zeno-

    *Protagoras: "Truth is subjective. What is true for you, and what is true for me, is true for me. Your opinion is true by virtue of its being your opinion."

    *Socrates: "My opinion is: Truth is absolute, not opinion, and that you are in absolute error. Since this is my opinion, then according to your philosophy you must grant that it is true."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Corno Dolce View Post
    I can't even find that discussion........Maybe Steve can give me the name of the thread - I don't have a clue...
    @ CD, I just sent you a pm regarding this, as I misspoke lat night in saying this thread was on our sister forum TC. PM me back if there are any further problems re: your finding which site this discussion is in fact on. WK
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    Quote Originally Posted by White Knight View Post
    @ CD, I just sent you a pm regarding this, as I misspoke last night in saying this thread was on our sister forum TC.
    No, you didn't- it's right here
    The truth that's told with bad intent
    Beats all the lies you can invent- William Blake, from Auguries of Innocence

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chi_townPhilly View Post
    Chi, Thanks. Since I've taken ill about a month ago, my judgements and perceptions have been somewhat awry. Good looking out!
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    I don't know about calling it tragic, but this thread is also starting to hurt.

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    As an aside to Wagner

    I can't resist this fooling around with Australian Prime Minister R. G. Menzies' speech bringing Australia into World War II in light of a certain significant anniversary this year. The real speech is here.

    Fellow Australians,
    It is my melancholy duty to inform you officially that in consequence of a persistence by Wagnerites in their invasion of the world's opera houses in 2013, they are celebrating the 200th anniversary of his birth and that, as a result, Australia has also been forced to do this and stage The Ring in Melbourne.
    No harder task can fall to the lot of a democratic leader than to make such an announcement.

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    The Tragedy of German Music discussion took place on Bright Cecilia Forum - I know, I participated in it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by EddieRUKiddingVare View Post
    As an aside to Wagner

    I can't resist this fooling around with Australian Prime Minister R. G. Menzies' speech bringing Australia into World War II in light of a certain significant anniversary this year. The real speech is here.

    Fellow Australians,
    It is my melancholy duty to inform you officially that in consequence of a persistence by Wagnerites in their invasion of the world's opera houses in 2013, they are celebrating the 200th anniversary of his birth and that, as a result, Australia has also been forced to do this and stage The Ring in Melbourne.
    No harder task can fall to the lot of a democratic leader than to make such an announcement.
    Say what one might about Wagner being a lecherous rake and womanizer and a somewhat closeted anti-semite but his mastery of orchestration is beyond reproach. Yes, he had some wacky philosophical weltanschauung which he gladly vented in his operas but he was no fool - Quite unlike the other 200 year old celebrant this year named "Joe Green" aka Giuseppe(Joe) Verdi(Green). Joe Green was the country bumpkin of the two but he got it right with his operas based on a couple of Shakespeare plays(Othello comes to mind).
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    *Protagoras: "Truth is subjective. What is true for you, and what is true for me, is true for me. Your opinion is true by virtue of its being your opinion."

    *Socrates: "My opinion is: Truth is absolute, not opinion, and that you are in absolute error. Since this is my opinion, then according to your philosophy you must grant that it is true."

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    I just wonder of what importance is a composers personal life to the way we enjoy/or not their music, it matters not one jot for me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JHC View Post
    I just wonder of what importance is a composers personal life to the way we enjoy/or not their music, it matters not one jot for me.
    Absolutely agree!! Richard Strauss wasn't a very nice man but his music is wonderful. Also, one baroque composer (name forgotten) was a murderer!!

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