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    One more 7 manual organ to be built...

    It take vision, guts, and courage plus no small amount of moolah to build a hybrid pipe/electric/classical/theatre 7 manual organ for the Castro Theatre in San Francisco:

    http://sfcoda.org/SFCODA/Home.html

    Yes, I'm tickled pink about it...And am waiting to read about the specification of Cameron Carpenter's touring instrument about to be unveiled on 09 March 2014........But it will be only 5 manuals...at a cost of $300,000...a relative bargain compared with Allen Organ's 5 manual(TO-5Q) for over $500,000
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    Check on youtube for update on Cameron's touring organ. I got an email from him about itwith a youtube link but didn't keep it.
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    Overkill....

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    The current Castro Wurly is a IV/21.

    Apparently the present owner is moving from the Bay area and taking the console and about 5 ranks of pipes with him.

    7 decks does seem a bit much - especially since most performers only play on the lower two most all the time.

    Cameron's YT video on his new Marshall & Ogletree organ follows:


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    My first thought would be how to position 7 manuals such that all are within reach, must need very long arms!!!!!!!!!
    Cheers MIKE.

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    Good thought, Mike ... even 5 manuals is quite the stretch

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    I could stack 5 cheap Casio keyboards on the console of my organ and say that I have 8 manuals. That's how I see "organs" that are digital completely or partially.
    Marko Hakanpää, organist of St. Michael's Church, Turku, Finland.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FinnViking View Post
    I could stack 5 cheap Casio keyboards on the console of my organ and say that I have 8 manuals. That's how I see "organs" that are digital completely or partially.
    Apparently they make quite good toasters....
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    Sadly, not everyone's purse stretches to a pipe organ. Those who have a good one under their fingertips and feet are indeed fortunate.

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    My point is, building a toaster with 8 or 12 manuals ist just putting together more keys and electronic components. Building a pipe organ with more manuals would mean a lot more pipes, wind chests etc.
    Marko Hakanpää, organist of St. Michael's Church, Turku, Finland.
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    I will checking it out in person when it comes to Arizona in April
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    As mentioned in an earlier post methinks overkill describes 7 manuals very well. I tend to wonder which organ works actually need 7 manuals. Is there some limit to the number of pipes per manual? How many different flues, reeds, and diaphones are there, with voices sufficiently different to warrant their inclusion? To my mind anything over 4 manuals smacks of "mine's bigger than yours".

    But then I'm not an organist so what do I know?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mush View Post
    I will checking it out in person when it comes to Arizona in April
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    Darn darn darn darn darn darn ... that date is during Holy Week ... darn darn darn darn

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nikam View Post
    Sadly, not everyone's purse stretches to a pipe organ. Those who have a good one under their fingertips and feet are indeed fortunate.
    No - but you might be surprised at the fact that a decent second-hand pipe organ can often be purchased and installed at less than the cost of a multi-clavier toaster - the parts of which (unless it is manufactured by Allen) are rendered obsolete almost as soon as one has received delivery of it.

    Unfortunately, many organists regard 'bigger' as 'better' - which is not necessarily the case. I should far rather play a reasonably decent second-hand pipe organ of moderate size, than some electronic monstrosity with five or more claviers and row upon row of stop-keys, pistons and flashing lights.

    In many cases, it is still cheaper to install a good second-hand instrument, even if it needs a few thousand spent in restoring it.

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    I don't disagree with anything you've said, but on behalf of small churches and even smaller, shrinking congregations, both of which would fit into a small corner of Wimborne Minster, I feel compelled to point out that not everyone has either your expertise or your extensive knowledge of pipe organs. Additionally, many churches are most certainly not in affluent areas such as Dorset, are not buildings of historic worth and, following on from that, many organists are unpaid and don't even have travelling expenses. Unfortunately that is the real world, much as we might wish it to be otherwise.
    Last edited by Nikam; Mar-30-2014 at 10:21.

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