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    Question Some people can redo classical electronically RIGHT

    I know we usually want our classical music - especially romantic - done in some kind of original way, not all modernized.. but I fear this fellow may have redone romantic classical as beautiful as any symphony, comments?

    https://www.reverbnation.com/vasilisginos

    Mahler, Debussy and Satie

    Thanks for your time
    Wagner's music is better than it sounds. - Mark Twain's Autobiography

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    Not my cup of tea but I have heard very much worse under the guise of modern music, The Satie was ruined 100%.
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    The Mahler was sort of OK though eh? I really appreciate the comment! I'm normally allergic to electronic redoings - except maybe Baroque like switched-on-Bach (hope I didn't just make enemies..)

    Saying you've heard very much worse, is a great compliment.

    Thank you VERY much for your time and comments.
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    Just slightly off topic well quite a lot really but your siggy quote (Wagner's music is better than it sounds. - Mark Twain's Autobiography) This is what followers of modern music keep telling me
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    Quote Originally Posted by JHC View Post
    Just slightly off topic well quite a lot really but your siggy quote (Wagner's music is better than it sounds. - Mark Twain's Autobiography) This is what followers of modern music keep telling me
    Followers of modern music keep telling you that Wagner's music is better than it sounds? Extraordinary. I don't recall ever saying this to you, but maybe there are others who do. Still, seems odd.

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    I am so sorry some guy I forget that some people have problems in grasping the gist of colloquial English as well as the bleeding obvious, but I think you know very well what I mean.
    You are quite right in that you don’t recall saying this to me ‘well done’ but there are other people that communicate with me regarding modern music hard for you to believe but true.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JHC View Post
    I am so sorry some guy I forget that some people have problems in grasping the gist of colloquial English as well as the bleeding obvious, but I think you know very well what I mean.
    You are quite right in that you don’t recall saying this to me ‘well done’ but there are other people that communicate with me regarding modern music hard for you to believe but true.
    Yes, I think it is very clear from my post that I do indeed know what you meant.*

    It is also true that I do not believe that fans of modern music spend any time at all talking to you and if they do, it is certainly not to say something snarky like "modern music is better than it sounds."

    There are, I am sure, people who say that kind of thing to you. I'm just skeptical about their being modernist fans. Fans of modern music, hard as it is for you to believe, think that modern music sounds fine.

    *I also know that you did not say what you meant.

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    Quote Originally Posted by some guy View Post

    *I also know that you did not say what you meant.
    Please elucidate.

    Regarding the rest of your post I did not say “Fans of” they are just ordinary music lovers that appreciate the same type of music that I do.
    I realise these Fans that you mention like modern music and good on em but the vast number of music lovers think that most of it sounds just terrible to them.
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    "Just ordinary music lovers that appreciate the same type of music that I do" sounds quite remarkably different from "followers of modern music." And "the vast number of music lovers" is not even close.

    No fair changing categories in mid-argument, you know. Either it's followers of modern music who say these pernicious things about the music they love, or it's someone else saying it. Apparently, you're acknowledging (without acknowledging) that I was right. OK.

    On anther topic, perhaps it is true that "the vast number of music lovers think that most of [modern music] sounds just terrible," though I doubt it. For one, that statement presupposes experience with quite a lot of modern music. And that is just what the vast majority of music lovers do not have. Perhaps you want to finesse that statement as well, from "most of it," to "most of what they've heard," which is precious little. Be fair, who goes out of their way to listen to a wide range of music that they already think they don't like just so that they can confidently assert that they don't like it? Easier to just assert without the experience; and that is exactly what happens.

    And why, pray tell, is it the people without much experience, and whose limited exposure is pitifully small, who get to be the ones who decide whether or not something "sounds terrible" or not? None of the fans think it sounds terrible at all, not surprisingly. They are fans, after all. But how did they get to be fans? Good question. By liking what they heard.

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    some guy you must be tired try again when you have had a nights sleep! you are getting things mixed up and seem confused.
    I made a simple one liner which most people would see as a humorous throw away comment and leave it at that, but not you eh lets milk this for all its worth. It almost seems as if you are attacking me not the fact that I made a remark that makes a joke out of someones signature??
    If you really want to twist my every word and phrase to suit some argument you seem hell bent on having then please do it methodically step by step. In the end you will have to admit that only a small percentage enjoy avant garde music.
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    I am thinking I hear music and I not like it I not listen any more yes
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    Well, JHC, you clearly do not want to have a conversation. So I'll leave this particular train wreck with one observation: I have done no twisting at all of any kind. The only person to do any twisting of your words is you, and simply to avoid taking any responsibility for what you said.

    Just a joke?

    Not funny.

    [Edit: One more thing. The market share for classical music in its entirety has been pretty stable at 3% for quite some time now. I suppose you'll be admitting now that only a very small percentage of all humans like classical music of any kind.]
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    Quote Originally Posted by some guy View Post
    Well, JHC, you clearly do not want to have a conversation. So I'll leave this particular train wreck with one observation: I have done no twisting at all of any kind. The only person to do any twisting of your words is you, and simply to avoid taking any responsibility for what you said.

    Just a joke?

    Not funny.
    Do you mean that what you have posted is a joke that is not funny because I don’t agree it is hilarious. just absolute rubbish as usual. As I said before “
    If you really want to twist my every word and phrase to suit some argument you seem hell bent on having then please do it methodically step by step” but I would rather keep to a musical discussion.

    [Edit: One more thing. The market share for classical music in its entirety has been pretty stable at 3% for quite some time now. I suppose you'll be admitting now that only a very small percentage of all humans like classical music of any kind.]
    Admitting?? I have never said otherwise so I don’t understand what you are hinting at.
    3% is less than I thought but I am not surprised there are many reasons for this but I assume that is not what you want to converse about. btw what percentage of this 3% is represented by your type of music ?
    Now if you want to discuss the music that you are so
    passionate about how about giving an example and we can take it from there
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    Quote Originally Posted by JHC View Post

    Now if you want to discuss the music that you are so
    passionate about how about giving an example and we can take it from there
    Come on mate ...............
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    So, five whole days. Five whole days without one single post to any thread in the classical music forum

    Not a very active forum.

    So I might as well continue the derailing of this thread. No one's around to object, anyway.

    So JHC says that if I want to discuss the music I like, I should give an example, and then "we can take it from there."

    Well, here's my question for JHC, aside from the very ordinary liking to talk about the music I enjoy, a thing I share with every other person in the world, no matter what kind of music they prefer, what is my specific incentive for doing something of that sort here at Magle International?

    There's some disincentive, for sure, starting with the aspects of the classical music forum that resemble a ghost town.

    Other than that, there's JHC. How do you suppose you would respond to an example? I'm thinking, on the basis of this, "most of it sounds just terrible," that the response would not be remarkably colleagial or otherwise friendly.

    And these words "just absolute rubbish as usual" do appear to corroborate my conclusion, rather.

    I am always amazed by how often people invite their fellow travellers to a nice game of "heads I win, tails you lose," and are even put out by being declined.
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