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    I am a bit lost here Mike as to what you are downloading I can understand a score being d/l but I don’t think this is what you are doing is it something similar to a piano roll that you load into the virtual organ so that it plays itself ?
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    Many scores are available as PDF files which would normally be printed out and used as sheet music, however there are apps to convert to MIDI format which can be used to control electronic keyboards, play notes, set volume, tempo and other effects. In some respects I suppose you could liken a MIDI file to a piano roll but with more "bells and whistles". MIDI Commands are allotted hexadecimal values, example Note on is 0x90 yyzz, note off 0x80 yyzz, where x denotes one of 16 channels (for an organ the channel number could define the manual or pedal) yy defines the note number 0-127, zz is defined as "velocity" and can control the attack time or level.

    Other commands can control switches or sliders, adjust tempo, volume, pitch and most of the other things found on electronic keyboards.

    MIDI can also send data from an instrument to a controller or computer. MIDI files can also be edited on a PC.

    When notation software generates a MIDI file it will include things like crescendos, diminuendos, tempo changes etc. Similarly when a MIDI file is imported to notation software this data should also appear. As can be expected the process of converting PDF to MIDI is not always perfect, nor is importing the resultant MIDI file to notation software, so I usually work with both the PDF and notation page on screen, and do any corrections needed, definitely quicker than reading the PDF file and entering every note by hand!
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    I am still struggling to understand so if I have got it right it imitates the various stops on a real Organ which your keyboard does not have but still require you to actually play the keyboard so you still need to be a musician. Am I getting nearer?
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    Yes a musician can "play" Grand Orgue with a MIDI keyboard, the sample set used will contain .wav files for every note of every pipe, when you press a key a MIDI "Note On" command is generated and sent to Grand Orgue which outputs that note for as many stops as are selected. If you have more than one keyboard/manual and pedals then each will send commands on a different channel.

    Grand Orgue uses MIDI commands, it doesn't really make any difference to G O where the commands are generated, keyboard(s) or a file on a PC.

    If you run a MIDI file on a PC without G O it will usually play the sounds of the instrument (which will be defined by the MIDI file) through Media player using the "Wavetable synth built into Windows.

    I can hear you say why go to all this trouble? Mainly because not many people have space for all the pipes of a large organ, nor be able to afford one anyway; the nearest one can get to the real thing is a Virtual pipe organ,

    As well as the free sample sets available on the web, you can buy a sample sets for many famous organs including Salisbury Cathedral organ which goes for about £800, it comes in 3 volumes total about 20Gb. You also need Hauptwerk which is another VPO that costs money, not free like G O.

    When Salisbury cathedral's organ was out of use for a month for maintenance they used a console with Hauptwerk and a Salisbury sample set, they also ran a few other sets as well.
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    Right ............ I shudder to think what size speakers you would need

    I must add that I have finally cracked the means of downloading via Audacity it is so simple when you know how, the main thing is to set up your PC first then it is automatic when you open Audacity. either radio stations, pod casts or YT if its coming through the computer you can d/l and save file, having said that I really won't use it much but its nice to know the old grey matter is still working.
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    I... I... oh no... the shame of it all, how can I type you straight in the eye,
    after burning discs from You Tube, converting videos to mp3 downloads?
    Sure, starting a band, getting together in Niagara Falls with the bassist and drummer last night,
    puts some modern pressure on me to get songs together we'll use as references.
    Sure, in this city of over 50,000 people, there isn't a CD store any more.
    Blank discs are being dumped with used CD's and new CD's through flea market stores,
    mostly from St. Catharines, an even bigger city further down the highway.
    A younger singer-songwriter guitarist came over today to show me how to do it.
    I made five disc copies for all the current band members.

    Going through the process for the first time, using a lot of screens, or pages,
    I could see all the different names for the providers of those screens and pages,
    probably the sons and daughters of California computer employees.
    Once we did our first burn, it just became about two upper tabs and waiting.

    Our ideal gig:
    Everyone pays a cover charge. Those who declare recording devices pay more.
    The mixing board will record and CD's will be copied for sale on request and after the band is over.
    Band CD prices will fluctuate with the venue and amount of original songs played.
    A video of the performance and audience will be made and copies will be sold.
    If posing with the band can be edited for individual endings, there will be a surcharge.
    No corporate recordings will be made or retailed. No free online anywhere's.
    Only live band performances. No studio anythings, just media news appearances.

    I can imagine all the fantasy CD's I can burn, thinking everything and anything,
    is waiting for me on You Tube.
    But I'm more excited about deactivating myself off of Facebook today.
    Learning a TINKICKER song and furthering my thread here is more important.
    So is finishing my guitar, finishing some songs, and learning new songs.
    "I'm still a cowboy riding the range,
    even if the greener grass on the other side is making my life strange".
    Yeah, even if I'm selling out and getting into modern country.
    "Missus Hippy Raver", with her "hot knife campfire heating every stone",
    on a soft, electro-funk southern Canadian country stage.
    We're waiting for you, and we're sad you're not here already.
    Aren't your friends sad with you? They miss us already,
    even if you haven't told them yet.

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    I do hear that the CD is in its final stages I think there is still a market but the quality will be upgraded by about 5 or 6 times.
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    CD's are a more exact recording and playback than cassettes,
    and it's easier to find individual tracks.
    I'm never going to be a conservator or build a music library,
    but I'm keeping the players and speaker system for the CD's I like to play.
    And once again, I'm picking new and used for $1 or more, sometimes less,
    trying out music I wouldn't buy retail and trading them back in, DVD movies too.
    I'm happiest thinking I'm owning it all, just wanting the electricity to plug it in.

    The public library is now going through it's CD books, selling them for $1.
    Three pounds of cod filets, seventeen filets.
    Four pounds of sawtooth flounder filets, nine filets.
    I'm reluctant to look up sawtooth flounders.
    It's time to boil some more cranberry sauce,
    and stand over the pot to inhale the steam.
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    I won't ditch my CDs or players either John one of the things at the moment is 'streamers' you load your collection onto a ext hard drive and beam it all over the place WiFi via a streamer so to speak, I just don't need that type of system. but the CD as a storage system is very limited, I heard on the radio that a future system will be DNA storage the nerds have managed to store music in it but there is no way of getting into your system at the moment 150.000 full length movies can be stored on 1 gram of DNA, makes you proud to be human. and mother nature thought of it first.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JHC View Post
    . . . I heard on the radio that a future system will be DNA storage the nerds have managed to store music in it but there is no way of getting into your system at the moment 150.000 full length movies can be stored on 1 gram of DNA, makes you proud to be human. and mother nature thought of it first.
    Ahah ... the re-invention of the 'walkie-talkie' ...

    I suppose next the images can appear on our foreheads ...

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    That's an amazing statistic,
    just like saying there is so much empty atomic space in us,
    all the humans on earth could fit into one person.
    But how's this for artificial free-release electricity pollution.

    Free-release artificial electrons are what nuclear bombs put out the most,
    considered radiation at it's highest level, everywhere on earth now geiger counter measurable.
    However, everything from illuminated signs to light bulbs to satellites beam those out,
    one-dimensional, and sooner or later slowing down, attracted by earth's gravity.
    When enough free-release electrons gather to make an invisible puddle,
    it would snap at you, giving you a mild electric shock.
    When these puddles grow in size, this shock could be fatal.

    But before that happens, the density of free-release electrons in the air,
    will approach and then match that of the density of the electrons in our brains.
    That means all brain activity will be atmospheric, all brains hearing each other all the time,
    and that's the brain of every living thing, and you won't be able to turn it off.
    We live in an era of electrical addiction. Electricity pollution is next.
    A real Watt is sending these atomic electrons as coalescing font,
    in a tasty Niagara Falls generated electrical envelope sent to you.
    All your loved ones are waiting for you to tell them about it.
    Your friends are starting to look for you on your favorite social site.
    You just have to let them in. I can see they're sad already.
    You don't want to make them sad, do you?
    You don't want to walkie-talkie-rockie that boat, but you are.
    Let them know. You'll feel a lot better.

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    Hells bells and sock potatoes I wondered what that ringing in my ear was, I am going to sit in my Faraday's cage and ponder.
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    Classic!I like that.

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    Learned a lot of things, thank you

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