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Old Dec-10-2006, 02:08   #76 (permalink)
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You may be barking up the wrong tree with that post, protos; the contributors to this thread (myself included) all like listening to classical music...

That being said, I can understand you listening to Ravel and Debussy instead of others as they are the composers who have written my fave music. But I do listen to many other works, as seen in this thread. Also, I don`t listen exclusively to classical.

One can`t force anyone to like a certain kind of music, as you have learned. The kids might not be interested in Mozart right now, but one never knows. Although people who like classical are a minority anyway.

I think Schubert songs in particular, (and maybe opera) take some getting used to- the singing style involved is quite developed.

This may sound harsh, but I think people don`t want to have to put much effort into listening these days. And classical music requires concentration in order to be fully appreciated. So that may explain why other music is more 'listenable.' I love lots of different music, but I readily admit that it takes more smarts to listen and understand classical music (not all, of course) than other kinds...
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Old Dec-10-2006, 02:37   #77 (permalink)
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Tickets to Die Fledermaus- that sounds great, Sybarite!
Absolutely delightful! A wonderful production – first seen three years ago and available on a DVD that was recorded two years ago.

At the moment I'm still bubbling like the champagne that fuels the farce, so I'll comment a bit more later.

Otherwise, I bought Monteverdi's Vespers yesterday; extraordinarily beautiful.
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Old Dec-10-2006, 04:07   #78 (permalink)
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Rojo I'm new to this forumlast night and this day Ilisten Felix Mendleson's violin concherto which tares at my heart you see I not only listen or hear music I feel the music I try to sense or feel what the composer is trying to express. A great composer once said " If you make them feel your soul then you have hooked them" Ray Charles 1968 Paris France
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Hi BGMCFAR,

Indeed, Mendelssohn`s Violin Concerto is a real gem. Who was the soloist?
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Sybarite- looking forward to your comments about the performance!
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Old Dec-10-2006, 13:59   #81 (permalink)
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Mahler Symphonies Nos. 2,4,6,9 Jascha Horenstein is an underrated conductor and his recording of 4th symphony with London Philharmonic Orchestra is veru fine while Margaret Price sing beatifully in the final movement
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Old Dec-10-2006, 18:55   #82 (permalink)
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I've been listening to the pieces from La Clemenza de Tito and Idomeneo by mozart, they're both fantastic pieces. Mozart is some of the only opera that I like. The overtures to his operas are great.
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Old Dec-11-2006, 00:21   #83 (permalink)
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Sybarite- looking forward to your comments about the performance!
Well, briefly: excellent production values. Good performances all round, although I particularly enjoyed Majella Cullagh as Rosalinde, Amelia Farrugia as Adele and David Kempster as Dr Falke. Robert Tear was Dr Blind, the lawyer, but at close to 70, there's isn't much power left in that voice, I'm afraid.

Stephen Lawless's direction and Benoit Dugardyn's design are superb and work very well together. It's set in a sort of generalised Weimer-style era; indeed, during the party section, there are nods to this, with one member of the chorus appearing briefly in Marlene Dietrich-Blue Angle mode. And a little later, with Orlofsky's party in full swing, there is a moment when a female member of the cast is seen, her back to the audience, standing on top of a grand piano, champagne glass raised to the heavens, dressed only in a top hat and stockings. It's a very erotic moment, but in the context of the unashamed decadence and debauchery, sits well and isn't gratuitous; indeed, I'd suggest that it emphasises an essential difference between English and Continental farce – that in the latter, flirting can lead to actual sex (the same can be said of 19th-century literature – there's no author to compare to Zola, for instance, in English of the time). It's also, within a Wiemaresque setting, as the sense of impending disaster and doom was one of the motivations for the unbridled hedonism of the Berlin of the time; there's almost the intellectual aftertaste of something darker. Live for today – who knows what tomorrow will bring?

The new translation works well; it's snappy and the dialogue sizzles. Some people tend to think that light opera isn't difficult to do, but you've got the same production values as grand opera, the same musical demands – and you've got to make it fizz like the champagne that so often seems to feature.

There are clearly one or two added jokes – for instance, when Eisenstein rips off Blind's robes to wear them himself, he finds the lawyer wearing only a woman's nightdress beneath. After the initial audience laughter has died down and Eisenstein has been seen to be staring in shock, he asks: "What's that?"

To which Blind replied: "It's my Freudian slip". Howls of laughter from the audience.

There are plenty of visual jokes too; one clever one (in my opinion) concerned the ballerinas. They were dressed as though straight out of a Degas painting, but at one point were seen doing exercises at some bars – but the bars, being vertical parts of the set as opposed to horizontal bars, turned them into pole dancers (which again works, given how they are viewed by some of the male characters).

So, those are my thoughts, 24 hours down the line. As I've already made clear – I enjoyed it hugely.
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Wow, that was fascinating, Sybarite! Next best thing to being there! Thanks so much for sharing that!
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Yesterday I had the rare opportunity to sit in the pews of the church where I am Director of Music/Organist, and listen to an excellent local choir perform along with harp, oboe and organ. The entire program was based upon the theme "Angels Song in the Desert". There were portions where those attending were invited to sing several carols, so it was even more thrilling for me to be amidst several hundred people singing and being led by a visiting organist playing the Möller pipe organ installed in the side gallery above the nave floor. The group performing was the Tucson Chamber Artists conducted by its founder, Dr. Holtan, who is also my Director of Choirs at my church.

The 'desert' is referenced in the program title because Tucson (AZ) is in the high desert.
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Old Dec-12-2006, 06:10   #86 (permalink)
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Last evening I spent about 3 hrs with Mr. Mozart synphony #40 in G minorK550 synphony#38in D major performed by Slovak Philharmonic also Synphony #36 in C majorsynphony #29 in A major both performed byBamburg Pilharmonic Synphony #41 in C major what a joy to listen the the masters work.I have been very blessed to have the instructorsI woh have taught me listern to music in a wayso you listen to al parts combinedto make it more enjoable not just the melody I play gutair and mandillin and a little banjo , but I'm starting piano in springwhat and adventure I look forward to the day when I am able to play the works of the masters
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Barking up the tree...

Hey Ms. RoJo,

What's this I hear about you *barking up the wrong tree*:

http://www.joe-ks.com/archives_feb2001/WrongTree.jpg

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Hey gio!

Well it was protos who imo was barking up the wrong tree, but anyway, poor pootchie!
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The overtures to his operas are great.
Mozart's opera overtures are very fine but in my opinion they all are bested by Wagner's overture to Tannhaeuser.

Right now it is Beethovens 1st and 5th Symphonies by Riccardo Muti & Philadelphia Orchestra.1st is very good i think second only to Furtwaengler,5th may also be good but after listening to C. Kleiber's Vienna account i do not think that any other 5th can sound right to me
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Wow, that was fascinating, Sybarite! Next best thing to being there! Thanks so much for sharing that!
My pleasure.

Yesterday's listening was dominated by Christian Thielemann's new recording of Mozart's Requiem and Jonas Kaufmann singing Strauss Lieder. Both wonderful; exquisitely pure music.

Today started with Holst's The Planets then Also Sprach Zarathustra and Eine Alpinsinfonie. Now it's time for Bach and at least some of the Brandenburg Concertos (all Karajan & the Berlin Phil).
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