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    GrandOrgue stop borrowing

    When "borrowing" a stop, what is the difference between a REF entry in the ODF as opposed to simply reloading the same .wav files?

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    With REF (or by rank reference as an alternative) there is only one instance of the pipe even if it's playable from different stops/manuals. When you load the same sample again you're creating two pipes even if the sample is identical, which in turn can lead to phase cancellation issues if they both are played at the same time. Not to mention more used RAM.

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    Lars P

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    Thanks, Lars.

    So the controls of the stop are in the "home" division? That is, if I use the tremulant for a rank which is loaded from a manual, and a REF is used in the pedal, tremulant will be applied to the rank played in pedal? So I assume that also means that amplitude and gain settings are useless in a stop which has a REF.

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    Tom

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    Yes, REF just triggers a foreign pipe.

    There is a newer replacement construct for REF: Ranks. You group pipes in ranks and stops trigger on one (or more) ranks.

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    Thanks for the response.

    Can two stops use the same rank with different amplitude and gain settings?

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    Quote Originally Posted by tbpr View Post
    Can two stops use the same rank with different amplitude and gain settings?
    No - a rank just provides one pipe triggerable via multiple stops. so there is only one set of settings.

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    Ok. Thanks for you help.

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