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Help neede on "In goede harmonie" by Matter/Molennaar

AlainT

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Hi everybody.
I try to learn how to harmonize a church song through the interresting little book by Bert Matter and Peter Molenaar I mentionned in the title.
If anybody knows this book and has the skills, can you tell me in which key is writen psalm 77 page 37?
There is a flat, so it could be in Dm or F. It really sounds minor, but it starts and ends on G. From time to time, there is an F# ....
Thank you in advance for your help.
Alain.
 
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Bartfloete

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Hi Alain,

it is in Dorian mode on G - you will find e instead of e flat (what you would expect in G minor) and f instead of f# - although there are some f#. Just the exceptions to the rule...

Best regards
Michael
 

AlainT

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Hi Alain,

it is in Dorian mode on G - you will find e instead of e flat (what you would expect in G minor) and f instead of f# - although there are some f#. Just the exceptions to the rule...

Best regards
Michael

Thank you for your answer, Michael. I had noted that it looked like G dorian (F from the second note), but I doubted because I thought that, in liturgical music, the harmony was closer to gregorian modes. And I could'nt relate this melody to any gregorian mode but, perhaps, the 8th mode.
Anyway, since you seem to have Matter/Molenaar's book, have you also Peter Molenaar's book "Thema met variaties" that I can't find anywhere?
Alain
 

Bartfloete

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The title looks promising, but it seems that "thema met variaties" is out of print. I got "in goede harmonie" from a library - fortunately in a German translation. Reading Dutch is possible for me, but very, very difficult... If reading German is possible for you, I can recommend:

Christiane Michel-Ostertun, Intonationen - Anleitungen und Tips für leichte Intonationen auf der Orgel

She shows how to derive play overs from the chorale book settings. Very instructive and pragmatic approach.

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AlainT

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Peter Molenaar's book is out of print, but perhaps somebody will be able to supply a scan....
It seems that Christiane Michel-Ostredun is a specialist in organ improvisation. I don't read German, but I will perhaps by her book wich is very cheep.
Thank you for the information.

Alain
 

Krummhorn

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Peter Molenaar's book is out of print, but perhaps somebody will be able to supply a scan....

Erm, even though out of print, if the copyright is still in force, scanning a copy to give or sell to someone would be illegal ... the punishment for ignoring copyright laws can be rather stiff ... huge fines and/or prison time. Be careful ... and be forewarned.

This forum, it's owners and administrators, fully support any/all copyright laws of all countries. Before making a copy of a copyrighted work as yourself, "would I be willing to work for free?" I don't think so ... and that is what happens when something like this is copied ... you haven't paid for it ... you got if for free ... the composer/author/musician has all lawful rights to be compensated for their creative arts/works.
 
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