Another Work In Progress

[Frederik.Sjölund]

I started this tune tonight..
http://www.freds3d.com/wip/dongeldoodle02.mp3
Let me know what you think and if you have any suggestions on what i could do with it

Cheers!

[Wyatt]

I liked it, made me think I might see it in a movie like Braveheart or something similar.

[Isulong-seoph]

I like it! keep up the good work

[Krummhorn]

Frederik,

I liked it too ... keep up the great work.

[Torsten Brandes]

Hello Frederik,

I always like your first idea, as I already said, but I miss in this work, and also in the other works I´ve heard from you, a confrontation with the interconnections and necessities of the musical substance.

All the best,

Torsten Brandes

[Frederik.Sjölund]

Thank you guys.

Torsten Brandes: Thanks, mate. I am very aware of my flaws in my projects. Im thinking that perhaps im not confronting the work the right way. Maybe my workflow is not the most optimized for creating a more dynamic track.
The way i usually end up doing it is starting with a melody and then build more on that melody, when i believe i should concentrate on finishing the song before i lay down all the harmonies and details. What i feel that i need to do aswell is perhaps learn more about the music theory in general. Scales and chords perhaps. Aswell as different techniques and interesting workflows. Do you perhaps know of any book you could recommend? I am ready to order one today. All i want to do right now is improve my knowledge and get better, but i feel like i am stuck somewhere.

[Torsten Brandes]

Hello Frederik,

the following books might be steps to get deeper into music, theorie, harmonie counterpoint, composition. I used them during my studium. I could give you a list of books about all this from beginners to advanced but they are all in german. It is of course impossible to list the vast literature on historical and new music theory published in the past few decades. Hugo Riemann— whose theories have enjoyed a remarkable renaissance among more formally-minded music theorists in the United States— has received renewed attention.
Wikipedia: His best known works are the famous Musiklexikon, a complete dictionary of music and musicians, the Handbuch der Harmonielehre, a work on the study of harmony, and the Lehrbuch des Contrapunkts, a similar work on counterpoint, all of which have been translated into English. One of his inventions, the Tonnetz, is the predecessor of the modern idea of pitch spaces.
He has written many other works which indicate an encyclopaedic knowledge of music in all its branches. He is held in the highest possible esteem by German musical authorities.

other books:

In English

all from:

Schoenberg, Arnold.

Style and Idea. Selected Writings.
Berkely: University of California Press, 1984.

Fundamentals of Musical Composition.
Strang, Gerald. Ed.
London: Faber and Faber, 1967.

Structural Functions of Harmony.
Stein, Leonard. Ed.

London: Faber and Faber, 1983.

In German
Harmonielehre.
Wien: Universal Edition, 1966.

You also could ask at the music highschool in Amsterdam if you are allowed to visit their library or ask at the university.

Anyway, here are 2 links which might be useful for you:

Solomon's Music Theory

Music 4113 X1 Special Studies in Music Theory: Seminar in Music Analysis

For me the most important thing beside the knowledge of all this is always the musical idea and if it´s possible to take the time to work on it and think about it. Investigation on the subject. Otherwise how can it be that musicians who had no idea of theory and harmonie came up with the most brilliant and incredible music of all genres. And at least: Listen to Bach, listen to Miles Davis! You know what I mean, don´t you?

That´s for now, thanks for the question and the interest.

All the best,

Torsten Brandes

[Frederik.Sjölund]

Thanks for the links and info.
I will check it out.
I recently had some new ideas that i will try out as soon as i pull myself together, heh. A big problem for me is the lack of time. But i figured i can still think up some new melodies and tunes through using my brain only. Like visualising the music. And then try to remember it or hum it in the microphone so i can pick it up later.

[Dmitry]

Hello Frederik.
That's right - you might create a great music.
For now, I suppose you need more realistic sound, violins, for example.
I use East West Queantum leap Orchestra. Then you will feel the sound more closer and will spend more time to make it more perfect And that is experience as well

Before you start to read books and learn (it takes time), you need to remember simple rools, which sometime very helpfull. That from the classical harmony:

Avoid parallel quarts and quints in your voices, while you go from one chord to another.

Do not double the 3d tone. For example, if you have C chord and you take E in bass, do not double it in voices.

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I started this tune tonight..
http://www.freds3d.com/wip/dongeldoodle02.mp3
Let me know what you think and if you have any suggestions on what i could do with it

Cheers!

i closed my eyes and saw rolling terrain in front of me... imperial warriors returning from battle... wind whipped-hair... war-dirtied faces... 3 great leaders... camera pans from one face to the other... sepia tones mix with black and white...

rocks

imho it would go well as background score for a documentary / drama

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