Is Heavy Metal the music of the Devil?

[Museo]

Heavy Metal seems to have a bad press for being rather dark and unsavoury and reported incidents of Ozzy Osborne biting animals does not help. I wondered if anyone had actually played a heavy metal track backwards (apparently satanic messages come through). Was this association with the Devil just a way of making the music more popular?

[SecondBass]

Yes, Heavy Metal music is the music of the Devil and it is something to be proud of. Anything to shut up the muppets that think that music is corrupting their youth. Yes, it's the Devil's music; yes, it makes them mass murderers; yes, they will eat children after hearing it.

[Museo]

Yes, it's the Devil's music; yes, it makes them mass murderers; yes, they will eat children after hearing it.

I assume that you said that with a smile on your face SecondBass. It is remarkable how a type of music can be blamed for society's ills though.

[Pompey]

I hope it is. I couldn't bear the idea that I'm going to go to Hell and I have to listen to Katie Melua. Please, let it be the music of the Devil, otherwise damnation will be unbearable.

[Leigh]

When I hear the lyrics of some of the modern stuff I find it amazing how metal ever caused such a stir. Oh well never mind they do after all need something or someone to blame for all the wrongs of the world.
Just seem to remember that in the case against Ozzy didn't they manage to find some message in some nicey nicey album of the time to show that it was just a strange occurance and nothing inteded by Ozzy or his producers?

[Soubasse]

Apart from the stuff which appears unreservedly to encourage or support unsavoury and anti-social acts, I've nothing against it - it's just loud and fast most of the time.

Personally I feel that there is far more 'evil' found in the general Hip-Hop gospels with their out-and-out hatred of parental and teacher authority just for the sake of it, hatred toward women, and the general "F*** you because you're not a misogynist, neanderthal retard like me" attitude. Boring and disturbing at the same time. Give me heavy guitars and pounding drums anyday.

Matt

[Stronghold]

yea I agree Evil is Evil in music ,forums,politics, its everyware.

But I think you can tell just with the open eye of were it lies.

[JLS]

I've never quite understood why people have a tendency to associate moral implications to how a particular type of music sounds. Apparently, metal somehow "sounds like" evil. What exactly does evil "sound like"? If one doesn't know what evil sounds like, how on earth can they claim that something sounds like evil?

[SecondBass]

We know what evil sounds like, it's Black Sabbath. Now that we have that established we can project this one step further and say that as Black Sabbath is evil and Lena Martell is all goodness and Christian, that goodness is patently rubbish so we should all support evil against the ongoing goodness malaise.

Support your local Heavy Metal band and reject everything Cliff Richard.

[Stronghold]

I've never quite understood why people have a tendency to associate moral implications to how a particular type of music sounds. Apparently, metal somehow "sounds like" evil. What exactly does evil "sound like"? If one doesn't know what evil sounds like, how on earth can they claim that something sounds like evil?

Really good question ill try to give my point of veiw from my own perspective and let you be the judge of your thoughts on the matter.

Music to me is a spiritual thing for one I play music of all types Metal,Rock,Jazz,Neo Shread,blues,Clasical guitar.

When I wright music I do it from the hart are my soal so who I am comes out through my own personal expresion if I project evil than it will be expresed with its own spirit as evil are if I express light it will show completly in the way you think and feall after listening to what was played.

Music is mood altering is it not?

Make me feall happy?

Make me feall sad ?

Make me feall relaxed ?

If you choose yes to thoughs questions than you agree music changes your mental state.

Well I belive that there is a world outside the physical a spirituall world that has influance on the human soal.

Dont belive me do an experiment listen to www.klove.com just one song at random and then listen to the music score from the Exercist and keep tabs on how you physically and emotinally feall after listening to theem both.

And be honest.

[JLS]

Of course music impacts us emotionally. It wouldn't be nearly as interesting if it didn't. But what you seem to be suggesting is that music is evil if it makes you feel bad. If this is true, then Kenny G is evil if it makes me feel bad(and it does). On the other hand, I have a cd I recently purchased of death metal. When I listen to it, I hear complex original music that is quite pleasurable to listen to. It is well constructed and well performed. It is quite possible that someone else would not derive pleasure from listening to this cd. Perhaps some of the qualities of this music would even make them feel bad. This music makes me feel good and someone else feel bad. So is this music evil?

[Stronghold]

Of course music impacts us emotionally. It wouldn't be nearly as interesting if it didn't. But what you seem to be suggesting is that music is evil if it makes you feel bad. If this is true, then Kenny G is evil if it makes me feel bad(and it does). On the other hand, I have a cd I recently purchased of death metal. When I listen to it, I hear complex original music that is quite pleasurable to listen to. It is well constructed and well performed. It is quite possible that someone else would not derive pleasure from listening to this cd. Perhaps some of the qualities of this music would even make them feel bad. This music makes me feel good and someone else feel bad. So is this music evil?

Good question.....

To read between the lines of what im saying are I guess to clarify its emotional intent that is evil not the fact that you crank your marshall to 11 and blow the doors off the house to express your self.

So if it were my entent to express murder and rage in people through music than I would bet the farm there is somthing spiritually evil going on there.


Are to bring abought an evil idea .

Read Ozzys lyrics there is a diferance of telling a storry in a song as expreshion rather than trying to express evil ideas whole diferant ball game.


Do you see any evil entent in thees lyrics I dont I bet you dont either.



1. I Don't Know

[Daisley - Osbourne - Rhoads]

People look to me and say
Is the end near, when is the final day?
What's the future of mankind?
How do I know, I got left behind

Everyone goes through changes
Looking to find the truth
Don't look at me for answers
Don't ask me
I don't know

How am I supposed to know
Hidden meanings that will never show
Fools and prophets from the past
Life's a stage and we're all in the cast

You gotta believe in someone
Asking me who is right
Asking me who to follow
Don't ask me
I don't know
I don't know
I don't know
I don't know

Nobody ever told me
I found out for myself
You gotta believe in foolish miracles
It's not how you play the game
It's if you win or lose
You can choose, don't confuse, win or lose
It's up to you
It's up to you
It's up to you
It's up to you
Go, go, go

People look to me and say
Is the end near, when is the final day?
What's the future of mankind?
How do I know, I got left behind, now I'm lost

Everyone goes through changes
Looking to find the truth
Don't look at me for answers
Don't ask me
I don't know


2. Crazy Train

[Daisley - Osbourne - Rhoads]

All aboard! Hahaha

Crazy, but that's how it goes
Millions of people living as foes
Maybe. it's not too late
To learn how to love, and forget how to hate

Mental wounds not healing
Life's a bitter shame
I'm goin' off the rails on a crazy train
I'm goin' off the rails on a crazy train

I've listened to preachers,
I've listened to fools
I've watched all the dropouts
Who make their own rules
One person conditioned to rule and control
The media sells it and you live the role

Mental wounds still screaming
Driving me insane
I'm goin' off the rails on a crazy train
I'm goin' off the rails on a crazy train

I know that things are going wrong for me
You gotta listen to my words, yeah, yeah

Heirs of a cold war,
that's what we've become
Inheriting troubles,
I'm mentally numb
Crazy, I just cannot bear
I'm living with something that just isn't fair

Mental wounds not healing
Who and what's to blame
I'm goin' off the rails on a crazy train
I'm goin' off the rails on a crazy train


3. Goodbye To Romance

[Daisley - Osbourne - Rhoads]

Yesterday has been and gone
Tomorrow will I find the sun
Or will it rain
Everybody's having fun
Except me, I'm the lonely one
I live in shame

I say goodbye to romance, yeah
Goodbye to friends, I tell you
Goodbye to all the past
I guess that we'll meet
We'll meet in the end

I've been the king, I've been the clown
Now broken wings can't hold me down
I'm free again
The jester with the broken crown
It won't be me this time around
To love in vain

I say goodbye to romance, yeah
Goodbye to friends, I tell you
Goodbye to all the past
I guess that we'll meet
We'll meet in the end

And I feel the time is right
Although I know that you just might say to me
What'cha gonna do
What'cha gonna do
But I have to take this chance goodbye
To friends and to romance
And to all of you
And to all of you
Come on now

I say goodbye to romance, yeah
Goodbye to friends, I tell you
Goodbye to all the past
I guess that we'll meet
We'll meet in the end

And the weather's looking fine
And I think the sun will shine again
And I feel I've cleared my mind
All the past is left behind again

I say goodbye to romance, yeah
Goodbye to friends, I tell you
Goodbye to all the past
I guess that we'll meet
We'll meet in the end

[JLS]

Good question.....

To read between the lines of what im saying are I guess to clarify its emotional intent that is evil not the fact that you crank your marshall to 11 and blow the doors off the house to express your self.

So if it were my entent to express murder and rage in people through music than I would bet the farm there is somthing spiritually evil going on there.


Are to bring abought an evil idea .

I take it, then, that you are giving up on the idea that how a particular music makes you feel determines its moral intent and instead claiming that if a piece of music intends to make someone commit an evil act it is evil.

For the purposes of this discussion, I'm fine with that. Now, you just have to tell me how you know what an evil act is.

Do you see any evil entent in thees lyrics I dont I bet you dont either.

You're asking the wrong person. I don't know what the word "evil" refers to.

[Stronghold]

I take it, then, that you are giving up on the idea that how a particular music makes you feel determines its moral intent and instead claiming that if a piece of music intends to make someone commit an evil act it is evil.

For the purposes of this discussion, I'm fine with that. Now, you just have to tell me how you know what an evil act is.



You're asking the wrong person. I don't know what the word "evil" refers to.

Not at all its all apart of it anger,Rage is just as much an emotion as being happy just you conbine the two emotion + Idea are intent behind the idea will give you a reaction .

Some people the recaction might be to walk around in a pissed off mood cursing the world wile cranking up a slayer tune.

And others it might take theem over the edge.

For example I have no numbers in front of me and I dont think anyone has botherd to do a study on this but with that being said.

I wounder how manny drive by shootings in America were comitted after listening to a song that promoted murder in the music and lyrics ?

Why ? well I think of it as getting amped up getting the adrinaline pumping and mentally reinforcing the intent ?

And what is intristing is I think it can happen both ways hear a song that makes you pissed off and spark off a thought to make you act out.

Are some people have a thought already and just use the music to renforce their entent.

But either way music does have an impact on behavior as far as evil goes that is just a term I use you can replace that with good are bad reaction if you dont believe in the good and evil theory's.

But the topic Is Heavy Metal Music of the devil.....................

Well to me thats an incomplete statment I would word it like...

( Can Music itself be from the devil)and from what I see in the world my anwser is yes.

It can be pop music,metal, any music in my openion.

What is evil - well thats a more complicated question to anwser than the topic title.

There are more views abought that subject than probly the people that populate the earth.

[JLS]

But the topic Is Heavy Metal Music of the devil.....................

Well to me thats an incomplete statment I would word it like...

( Can Music itself be from the devil)and from what I see in the world my anwser is yes.

It can be pop music,metal, any music in my openion.

We agree, then. Heavy Metal(or any specific musical style) is not evil in and of itself. It's simply music(though you think it can be used for evil purposes(whatever that means)).

What is evil - well thats a more complicated question to anwser than the topic title.

There are more views abought that subject than probly the people that populate the earth.

Perhaps. But it is necessary to know what evil is if you want to identify it in music or any other area of life. If you don't know what evil is, you can't even know if it exists...