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    Commodore con Forza John Watt's Avatar
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    Hey! I play electric guitar but this string wraps around me like a long songlist, playing tunes by all these guys, and seeing most. Too much rock though, not master musicians. A few comments. Someone nailed McCartney. He switched to bass when they fired their bassist in Germany, so he never grew up as a bassist, doing the bass thing. But those electric bass lines were light enough to blend with vocals and chord strumming, not far removed from their skiffle origins. His promotion of Hendrix is what I admire about him the most, the exact opposite of Pete Townsend.

    For me, bass is a progressive instrument. It's not a folk or amateur toy to strum and sing to, or bang and bop to. Most bassists occupy their own space alone, a real luxury in a band and onstage. It's a large ensemble requirement, different instruments creating sonic levels. So I'd have to describe them in terms of the relationships their playing creates, not as soloists. And in my professional travels, after pianists, bassists are who singers and band leaders work hard for and pay more to keep, wanting to bring them along all the time. Too many wannabe rock stars wanting to play lead or synths left too few bassists for our generation.

    Sting! He bugs me! Solid bass for years as The Police, then switching to guitar. It's easier to sing Sting if you play bass, but working the contra-guitar of Andy Summers while singing is an exercise in musical co-ordination. I love the Police, but only play and sing eight songs. Like playing heavy funk bass and singing lead. Haven't heard that lately, Rick James from Buffalo. That cost him his life. He got too hard, popular and rich.

    And all up above, I did not see Jaco Pastorius, my favorite bass entertainer, with his Hendrixian atmospheres, contra-puntal overtones and effects, and his Cirque de Soleil slow motion acrobatic moves. Jack Bruce really set the template for busy bass and bass tones forming the backbone with drums, for electric rock arenas. It's difficult to discuss this with anyone who hasn't played hard rock in an arena, with the huge amount of wattage and sound getting tossed around out there, whether it is mixed coherently or not. Jack's tones, pumped through pre-stereo mixers, may have been farty and blasty live, even though he toned it down every other way in the studio, and with other acts. I'm thinking Theme From an Imaginary Western, with Leslie West as Mountain. Please, classicists, remember, in a rock band what you hear coming back at you, mains, monitors, foldback, side wash, E.Q. control, dance floor, crowd and room echoes, is louder and moves you more than your own playing, not distracted by sheet music, your sound not progressing past you.

    What bass talk that's hot for me right now is Ned Steinberger and his electric cello bass. I'd like to thank Corno Dolce for turning me on to his domain. I'm looking for an old cello neck to try one myself, to give to my next bassist, my next best friend, someone I'd let take my bed, drive my car, help me date my girlfriend, loan money, instruments, introduce to my agents.... are you out there? Juni! Juni Booth! Come back. What's the matter? McCoy promising you more?

    So that's just so all that. What's a real curiosity is where the first practical bass was used. I can't answer that. Jubal, named in Genesis as the first musician on earth, probably was a drummer, or a singer, that kind of communication working first. And that is a nice reference for talking about the oldest professions on earth.

    Geddy Lee getta life outta Rush. Leave Neil alone. Try to learn to jam a blues progression before you get too off about now being the Rush leader. Yeah! Go ahead! Impress me! Let me hear you sing harmony or let someone sing harmony with you for the first time in your life. I'm not impressed with your library of pre-recorded song parts, all Rush, when you can't beat the beat of Tush. Thump-thump, thump-thump, thump-thump, like the rez blues bands around you when you grew up that you never saw, and the funk and jazzy groups up from Buffalo and Niagara Falls, you never saw. You were rich, and you got richer. How much do you want, and how much can you keep getting away with, holding back, denying fans a more adult musical experience?

    I still feel sad every time I head out of St. Catherines on the Q.E.W. and pass the onramp. I jammed with Neil Peart twice in Welland at The Atlas Hotel when he was in Bullrush. I prayed for him, the only musician to get my attention that way.

    When continents crumble, while oceans rise, as whales are dying, the bass of the depths will move you first, hit you the hardest, travel the furthest, to be heard last and resonate fully into a fading dimension, like the long low boom I heard the other day, as Lake Erie ice broke from Canada to the U.S.A.

    '60 to '64 Fender Jazz basses, rosewood neck, no mute or finger guide. My faves.
    Until I hear someone playing cello-bass.
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    The bassist from Porcupine Tree, they also have the worlds best drummer

    If you don't know the band, you should check them out.

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    Stanley Clark even if it's somewhat jazz.

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    Geddy Lee

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    You are quite right

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    I might stick a vote in for Les Claypool here.

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    in no particular order:

    Fieldy (Korn) - He took fleas slapping technique to the next level and created a signature sound that korn would be lost without.

    Bassist from Mudvayne - Watch their videos and you will see why.

    Geezer Butler (Black Sabbath) - no explanation needed

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    A bassist in a really tight Power-Trio really has to put out a lot of music-- nowhere to hide, you know. For that reason, Chris Novalselic of Nirvana deserves a place in the conversation.

    At a former job, I knew a bassist who circulated about the SE Pennsylvania bar-scene.
    He put in a word for Flea from Red Hot Chili Peppers.

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    I would name Rutger Gunnarsson who played bass on the ABBA records.

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    John Paul Jones or Sturt Hamm

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    The two craziest experiences I've had with bassists both happened in Buffalo.
    Seeing Rick James without knowing what was happening was very exciting.
    His snapping and thumb-popping was something new, carrying everyone away.
    You knew you were in the presence of something that was going to take off.
    Rick James was so hot I even had thoughts about wanting to be his agent.

    Jaco Pastorius, playing in Weather Report, his stage show, his playing..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buttercup89 View Post
    The bassist from Porcupine Tree
    That would be Colin Edwin - yep, he's very good indeed.

    , they also have the worlds best drummer
    You're not kidding, Gavin Harrison is a bloody amazing player.

    If you don't know the band, you should check them out.
    Also true

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    First for me it was
    Jack Bruce
    then I quickly went through
    Chris Squire [Fish out of Water],
    John Wetton,
    Gary Thain,
    Stanley Clarke,
    Michael Manring,
    John Paul Jones,
    Eberhard Weber
    but one guy stands out above them all...:
    Jaco Pastorius
    who I saw four or five times - complete bass player, musician and performer.

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    oops - I forgot
    Jeff Berlin...

    How could I do that?!

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