Using "MyOrgan"

[AlainT]

Hi!

I'm a dude new member on this forum.....

I'm a dude in pipe organ playing as well!

The question is: I'm looking for a low cost (let's say free...) software organ synthesiser. It seemed to me that "MyOrgan" would be a good choice.
BUT!!!! When loaded, it asks for "*.organ" sample files.

Do anybody knows about this kind of sample files? Or do anybody knows how to load samples for this program (I mean, in which format)?

Thank you in advance for your answer.

[Krummhorn]

Hello Alain T ... and Welcome aboard Magle Int'l Music Forums.

Having not heard of this software program before, I went searching. Did you notice the sample files on this site: http://www.kloria.com/software/musical/myorgan/ ? Scroll down on the left side ... The site also claims that some Hauptwerk sample files might work .
Looks like the latest version of this application is 1.0.6 (June, 2006).

My guess is that the freebie things might be outdated software that may not be supported any longer, which might be a reason for not being able to locate readily available ".organ" sample files. Possibly others here might have more insight to offer.

[AlainT]

Thank you for your answer, Krummhorn.

Of course, I have already loaded some of the indicated material that are linked on Kloria's site. I got ".SF2" files, or Hauptwerk compatible files.
The point is that MyOrgan asks only for ".organ" type files....

I agree with you that those informations are somewhat outdated.

[AlainT]

Here are some fresh news.

I discovered that the ".organ" files are called "definition files". They seem to decribe the different sounds banks of an instrument, so that the expander program (Hauptwerk or MyOrgan for instance) can handle them.

I checked some of the free soundbanks indicated above. I confirm what is said on the Kloria's site. MyOrgan is very simple to use, and the sounds produced are very clean. As indicated, it seems not to be so hungry in machine resources, as well.

I'll check with dual keyboards, and I'll tell you the results.

[NEB]

I've just downloaded and installed it without problems at all. actually it looks quite good! I would say that some better speakers would help the sound, but I'm not about to run out and get those unless I was going to use the pc in that way...

[AlainT]

Just check this amazing harpsichord bank: http://duphly.free.fr
I find it very friendly when practicing scales, arpegios, and all.....! The recording process is very good, and the instrument is so real!
(ok, some upper register notes are missing, but it sound's so good...)

[BWV66]

I have also downloaded this software and find it very good for a free product. You will find several free ample sets on www.kloria.com which will work. You may need to download winace extractor before you can use them(also free). The best of these sample sets is jeuxdorgues - a copy of an organ in Alsace built in 1843 and which has 24 stops, 2 manuals and pedals. You would have to pay almost $500 for the Hauptwerk version!

[musicalis]

Hi !
I have discovered kloria myorgan 15 days ago, when I was not at home, but with a very slow speed for download, I could not try this software as the organ sets are very heavy (100 Mb for the smallest).
When I came back home 2 days ago, from where I can have DSL, I have been able to load 5 free organ sets for MyOrgan or hauptwerk 1.
Myorgan is wonderfull; since I am home, I play organ for hours.
the definition files are very easy to understand and to edit, so i have allready made my own organ, mixing the various stops.
i use MyOrgan in two ways :
- in live with a midi keyboard (piano FP8 roland) my PC and a reverb (quadraverd Alesis)
- with Harmony-Assistant (a cheap french music editor software) that I use as a midi sequencer + midiyoke (a free virtual midi cord necessary to link the two softwares).

J-Paul

[musicalis]

Hi !
I continue to test and play with Kloria MyOrgan.
It is really interesting.
I am preparing a composition contest for a specific organ. After studiying a few days several configuration files (free download), I have been able to create with a text editor this organ I need.
The biggest difficulty has been to find the organ stops. I have found several free organ set on the web, but some stop, like cromhorne, were still missing.
So I have made the missing stops by myself, using a few mp3 sounds of pipes found in various demo, and create the full range of pipes with a wave editor.
Now, for no money, have my onw organs, compatible MyOrgan and Hauptwerk 1
Is there is this forum, people doing the same things. I will be happy to exchange some ideas.

[AlainT]

Hi!
I'm not that advanced as you you are in handling definition files.
Can you give (us) some general gide lines about edit those files?
You say you are editing them with a text editor. Do you mean Windows notepad for instance?

[musicalis]

Yes I have made my own instrument with Notepad.exe
All you need are some free organ sets and a lot of time.
Once you have understood the goal of each line of a definition page, creating his own organ is very easy. When my organ will be quite completed, I'll write a small tutorial for the folks who live in this forum.

Jean-Paul

[cfmcmillan]

Jean-Paul -

I too have discovered my organ and am quite pleased with the initial results. Like you, I'd like to be able to build my own organ using things such as existing soundfonts (sf2). Have you discovered the specifications for the .wav files that myorgan uses? I'm guessing that understanding the definitions page won't be too hard, but it would be nice if there were some documentation. Have you had an luck finding documentation?

[musicalis]

Dear Friends

1) About pipes waves:
You need a file for each note and each stop. So an organ with a 60 keys keyboard and 14 stops needs 4*60= 840 files.
For each stop, the key are named 01-C1.wav, 02-C#1.wave ... and so on.
The files are stored in several folders, a folder for each stop.
The wave may have a 9 seconds duration (the best), but it may be as shorter as 1 second. Each wave is recorded with an endless loop and an ending point.
Selecting the two points of the loop is a little difficult if you want a correct loop (without click noise).

2) About the specification files:
I have never found any doc on the web. I have made my own documentation after analysing several files. It is not very difficult. I am writing a tutorial, in french first, then in english if somebody help me to correct the mistakes of my translation. It is a long job, so please wait a little more.

Jean-Paul

[musicalis]

Hi !

I promised a tutorial for organ definition files. IT IS DONE !!!
Please, see my new topic somewhere in this forum or download at
http://www.musicalis.monespace.net/o...mecnoMin.organ

Cheers.
Jean-Paul

[methodistgirl]

I would love to have such a similation program for my computer. Can you
get something like that at a store somewhere? We do have a walmart or
Kmart here in madisonville.
judy tooley