Bach Chorales in PDF - Page 2

NEB · Jan-03-2008, 22:59

I like 599. In fact so many from the Buchlein are really pleasant and not too hard either - makes them easy enough to pull out when required with minimal effort.

Contratrombone64 · Jan-03-2008, 23:01

yes - they are endlessly delightful, I agree. I love Knud Vad's interpretation as well as Hans Fagius (both Vikings).

Krummhorn · Jan-03-2008, 23:02

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Originally Posted by Contratrombone64

. . . Annoyingly I can't seem to get them to appear in numeric order ... will have to work that through with one of the moderators and some cunning scheming.

The only way is to completely 'unload' them and start anew - re-assembled, they would still reside in the first posting as they are now. It would require a regulator (me, perhaps) to perform that 'cunning scheme' ...

. Unfortunatly, if I remove those files, they go directly to la-la-land and would have to be uploaded by Contratrombone64 all over again.

Contratrombone64 · Jan-03-2008, 23:04

Hmmm, seems like an awful lot of slow work just to placate my desire for conformity. Let me think about that, ok?

Krummhorn · Jan-07-2008, 01:48

Sure thing ... I'm also looking into how we might post them in the internal Magle Wiki here, too.

NEB · Jan-09-2008, 15:00

Hi CT64,

Just a question for you. BWV621 'Da Jesus an dem Kreuze stund' you've noted a metronome marking of Crotchet = 52.

Curious because I always use this on Good Friday and always play it about half that tempo on something like a 8' violin diapason or similar. I think it has a wonderful tension to it that conveys the intense sadness associated with the crucifixion.

So, I'm curious what others do with this one???????????????

This question is not solely directed at CT64. Thanks for responses.

Krummhorn · Jan-09-2008, 16:09

Hi NEB,

I've always played it at 52 on the quaver - that tempo on the crotchet is too 'irreverant' for the mood of this piece. My registration is 8' Sptizflote, 8' Gemshorn & 1-1/3 Larigot for the manual, and a light 8 & 4 in the pedal.

NEB · Jan-09-2008, 16:30

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Originally Posted by Krummhorn

Hi NEB,

I've always played it at 52 on the quaver - that tempo on the crotchet is too 'irreverant' for the mood of this piece. My registration is 8' Sptizflote, 8' Gemshorn & 1-1/3 Larigot for the manual, and a light 8 & 4 in the pedal.

Thanks Krummhorn. I agree - 52 on the quaver is perfect for the mood and tension. I'll give your registration a wirl on it when I next go in for a practice sess.

I've always left the upperwork off, getting back to a soft diapason type illustrating the pathos of the moment. But I'll give that a go.

Contratrombone64 · Jan-09-2008, 22:05

Tempo indications are a guide only and I "got at them" by adopting Helmut Walcha, Knud Vad and George Ritchie's tempi (listened to differnt player's interpretations). I may very well have gotten that tempo completely wrong. I'll check that and fix it if needed. I appreciate all feedback on this.

As to registration, trumpet en chamade in the right hand, 8' bombarde in the left and 64' contratrombone in the pedal is particuarly soothing for the congregation (ducks for cover)

Krummhorn · Jan-09-2008, 22:06

Welcome, NEB ...

As for the upperwork registration, my Larigot is 'wired' off the Gemshorn rank, so it is rather subtle and never overpowers. Sometimes I have to add more stops to pieces like this so that the organ is heard over the din of the congregation during the prelude.

CT64 ... nice registration ... you'll no doubt want to consider adding the tremolo to 8' Bomb ...

NEB · Jan-09-2008, 22:31

CT64 - if the floor don't rumble the congregation can't grumble eh? Hehehe.

NEB · Jan-09-2008, 22:38

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Originally Posted by Krummhorn

As for the upperwork registration, my Larigot is 'wired' off the Gemshorn rank, so it is rather subtle and never overpowers.

ah. Mine isn't that subtle but I'll play around. always willing to adapt and make improvements...

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Sometimes I have to add more stops to pieces like this so that the organ is heard over the din of the congregation during the prelude.

Thankfully I really don't have that problem. The regular congregation are always very respectful of quiet contemplation prior to services, and any visitors are encouraged to keep quiet with carefully placed Shushing to remind them to put a sock in it. And if they really get too noisy the main priest asks for quiet to be observed in respect to our Lord. Usually does the trick.

NEB · Jan-09-2008, 22:41

Ct64,

Goodness I've just thought - I hope you don't think it was a criticism I was levelling in what I said...... Perish the thought...

Contratrombone64 · Jan-09-2008, 22:49

Dear Lord NEB, criticism can be good or bad, both are welcome, espcially from one so enlightened as you.

Contratrombone64 · Jan-09-2008, 22:50

Adding a tremulant to a Bombarde stop is a wonderful idea.

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Contratrombone64 Vice Admiral Virtuoso Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 4,516 Images: 1	Tempo indications are a guide only and I "got at them" by adopting Helmut Walcha, Knud Vad and George Ritchie's tempi (listened to differnt player's interpretations). I may very well have gotten that tempo completely wrong. I'll check that and fix it if needed. I appreciate all feedback on this. As to registration, trumpet en chamade in the right hand, 8' bombarde in the left and 64' contratrombone in the pedal is particuarly soothing for the congregation (ducks for cover) Last edited by Contratrombone64; Jan-09-2008 at 22:50.

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Krummhorn Administrator Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Tucson, Arizona Posts: 5,629 Images: 41	Welcome, NEB ... As for the upperwork registration, my Larigot is 'wired' off the Gemshorn rank, so it is rather subtle and never overpowers. Sometimes I have to add more stops to pieces like this so that the organ is heard over the din of the congregation during the prelude. CT64 ... nice registration ... you'll no doubt want to consider adding the tremolo to 8' Bomb ... __________________ Kh ~~. Admiral of the Pipes & Ranks Amateur musicians practice until they get it right ... Professional musicians practice until they can't get it wrong ...

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Jan-03-2008, 22:59	#16 (permalink)
NEB Rear Admiral Appassionata Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 1,055	I like 599. In fact so many from the Buchlein are really pleasant and not too hard either - makes them easy enough to pull out when required with minimal effort.

Jan-03-2008, 23:01	#17 (permalink)
Contratrombone64 Vice Admiral Virtuoso Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 4,516 Images: 1	yes - they are endlessly delightful, I agree. I love Knud Vad's interpretation as well as Hans Fagius (both Vikings).

Jan-03-2008, 23:04	#19 (permalink)
Contratrombone64 Vice Admiral Virtuoso Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 4,516 Images: 1	Hmmm, seems like an awful lot of slow work just to placate my desire for conformity. Let me think about that, ok?

Jan-07-2008, 01:48	#20 (permalink)
Krummhorn Administrator Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Tucson, Arizona Posts: 5,629 Images: 41	Sure thing ... I'm also looking into how we might post them in the internal Magle Wiki here, too.

Jan-09-2008, 15:00	#21 (permalink)
NEB Rear Admiral Appassionata Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 1,055	Hi CT64, Just a question for you. BWV621 'Da Jesus an dem Kreuze stund' you've noted a metronome marking of Crotchet = 52. Curious because I always use this on Good Friday and always play it about half that tempo on something like a 8' violin diapason or similar. I think it has a wonderful tension to it that conveys the intense sadness associated with the crucifixion. So, I'm curious what others do with this one??????????????? This question is not solely directed at CT64. Thanks for responses.

Jan-09-2008, 16:09	#22 (permalink)
Krummhorn Administrator Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Tucson, Arizona Posts: 5,629 Images: 41	Hi NEB, I've always played it at 52 on the quaver - that tempo on the crotchet is too 'irreverant' for the mood of this piece. My registration is 8' Sptizflote, 8' Gemshorn & 1-1/3 Larigot for the manual, and a light 8 & 4 in the pedal.

Jan-09-2008, 22:31	#26 (permalink)
NEB Rear Admiral Appassionata Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 1,055	CT64 - if the floor don't rumble the congregation can't grumble eh? Hehehe.

Jan-09-2008, 22:41	#28 (permalink)
NEB Rear Admiral Appassionata Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 1,055	Ct64, Goodness I've just thought - I hope you don't think it was a criticism I was levelling in what I said...... Perish the thought...

Jan-09-2008, 22:49	#29 (permalink)
Contratrombone64 Vice Admiral Virtuoso Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 4,516 Images: 1	Dear Lord NEB, criticism can be good or bad, both are welcome, espcially from one so enlightened as you.

Jan-09-2008, 22:50	#30 (permalink)
Contratrombone64 Vice Admiral Virtuoso Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 4,516 Images: 1	Adding a tremulant to a Bombarde stop is a wonderful idea.