Election 08

Favored Presidential Candidate or Party Affiliation

  • CLINTON, Hillary

    Votes: 1 6.7%
  • OBAMA, Barack

    Votes: 8 53.3%
  • McCAIN, John

    Votes: 3 20.0%
  • NADER, Ralph

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • PAUL, Ron

    Votes: 2 13.3%
  • Democratic Party

    Votes: 1 6.7%
  • Green Party

    Votes: 1 6.7%
  • Independent Party

    Votes: 1 6.7%
  • Republican Party

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Total voters
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Andrew Roussak

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Now I guess Obama got an incredible PR on this way - so this race with Hillary was worth it.

And McCain must fight now really hard, to win.
 

methodistgirl

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I had a good cry when I heard the song Eagle by Abba. It seems like
us americans have forgotten what our national bird stands for. Has any
of you watched a bald eagle in flight? This bird is very brave where ever
he goes and will take on anything and how free he is! USA isn't the only
nation with this bird as a symbal. Mexico has him on their flag holding a
snake sitting on a cactus. He will go anywhere he pleases and swoop
down and get himself a fish or other kind of food that he can eat. Don't
you think it's time we were a little like the bald eagle? He can either
glide with the wind holding him up like a kite or he can soar like a jet.
To the Native American he's a symbal of the Great Spirit(God), to the
rest of us he should be the symbal of freedom and strength. With the
way things are and have been going, USA has lost her strength and
dignity. Now! Who would you want for President?
judy tooley
 

intet_at_tabe

Rear Admiral Appassionata (Ret.)
Master Krummhorn

Here´s what Jay Leno thinks of Hillary:

"Things aren't looking good for Hillary. Like a lot of women in Washington, I think she's just starting to realize she may have slept with Bill Clinton for nothing." --Jay Leno
 

methodistgirl

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Well I cought my own goof up. The eagle on the Mexican flag is a
golden eagle. I was looking at the flag after I said what I did.
judy tooley
 

Muza

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Master Krummhorn

Here´s what Jay Leno thinks of Hillary:

"Things aren't looking good for Hillary. Like a lot of women in Washington, I think she's just starting to realize she may have slept with Bill Clinton for nothing." --Jay Leno

:grin: Pretty funny!
 

intet_at_tabe

Rear Admiral Appassionata (Ret.)
:grin: Pretty funny!

Muza dear :tiphat:

It was the opening by Jay Leno, I found incredibly funny: "Like a lot of women in Washington....." - It says it all about Bill being a womanizer.

But incidently, I fell over another story first about Mrs. Condoleezza Rice, which I find funny but questionable as well, though I can´t really see President Jr. in this part about the alledged on-going intimate affair between Mrs. Rice and President "Casanova" Jr.

It´s from a website called SOMB - http://soundopinions.org/forum/index.php?showtopic=3746. Here goes:

June 3, 2006 -- WMR can report that a Mayflower Hotel staffer has confirmed that First Lady Laura Bush spent at least one night this past week at the hotel, which is four blocks north of the White House. Mrs. Bush reportedly moved out of the White House after a confrontation with President Bush over his on-going affair with Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice. The Mayflower's official position on the story is that they can "neither confirm nor deny" the identities of their guests. Because it's penchant for security and secrecy is well known to the Secret Service, the Mayflower has become a reliable hotel for U.S. and international VIPs.

Some Washington observers believe that the recent flare up between Laura Bush and the president stems from the fact that her poll numbers are twice as favorable as her husband's (60 percent to 29 percent). Laura Bush's recent solo missions to New Orleans, Colorado, and an AIDS conference at the United Nations represent a virtual declaration of independence from the most unpopular president in U.S. history. "She's [Laura's] taking a page right out of Hillary's book," said one Washington pundit. Rice, on the other hand, has been very close and loyal to Bush since she signed on as his chief foreign policy adviser in 2000. WMR has been told of intimate encounters between Mr. Bush and Rice on trips to New York City (multiple occasions) and New Orleans following Katrina.", end of quote.

In my personal opinion about Hillary Clinton "For President?" or as Vice President, I think it was predictable that she could never win this campain to be nominated in front of Barack Obama. There have been much to much immature political statements, and then shortly after contradictions from her mouth. First she says one thing and then the opposite. Difficult for the american people to believe in her. Unfortunately for her, she has also lost millions of voters among the female America.

I believe most Americans wouldn´t mind a female President at all - But not Hillary Clinton - that´s for sure.

Mrs. Rice on the other hand as Vice President to John McCain has been very popular with the Bush-admin. and it´s believers in wildly spread lies to cover up for the www.usforglobalsupremacy

However, I believe the Republican nominy Mr. John McCain has been very wise these past few months - like a fox preparing his policies for the future America, while Obama and Hillary have spread mud against each other, which unfortunately take up more wasted time for both of them, than reasonable during this campain.

But it´s polititics as well in the USA to use whatever means and tools possible to hurt the other candidate.

What I miss are clear political statements and promisses from the both of them McCain and Obama about each their political visions for America for the future, not to mention how to escape the devastating economical, political and social "US down the drain" philosophy.

Like Andrew suggested, I believe at the moment the race beetween the two nominies from each party McCain and Obama must be considered from every point of view - very close and unpredictable at the moment, to who will win the November 2008 election for the President of the United States of America.
 
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intet_at_tabe

Rear Admiral Appassionata (Ret.)
Can any one imagine this guy to have an alledged on-going intimate affair with Mrs. Condie Rice, dated back to 2006.

I think we should probably consider other possibilities:

Verden i billeder - uge 22


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intet_at_tabe

Rear Admiral Appassionata (Ret.)
What is President Bush trying to do? Look like Nixon?:grin:
judy tooley

Ms. Judy :tiphat:

It says in the Danish language from week 22, quote: "President Goerge W. Bush attended a ceremony for the newly educated kadets at the United States Airforce Academy". However it also says: "Why one of the most powerful men in the world President George W. Bush suddenly decided to cross chests with one kadet, we can not say. However it must have been too much of an ordeal for President Bush, he seems exhausted by this stunt", end of quote.

LMAO!! :lol::lol::lol::lol::trp::trp::trp::trp::banana::banana::banana::banana::clap::clap::clap::clap:Way to go junior: Let´s dance... Is Bush actually trying to send a kiss through the air on number three photo?

I wonder what we may expect from Obama and McCain?
 
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Krummhorn

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The "Waffling" Clinton's are at it again ...

You may remember that Hillary was to resign the race for candidacy on Tuesday night (the 3rd), then "waffled" it to Friday night (6th), and has now "waffled" it once more to Saturday (7th). Good golly, miss Molly, give it up Hillary, ... it's been over for many weeks now ... I certainly hope Obama doesn't even consider for one moment naming her as his veep - I think that would spell disaster for the Democratic party.

So having to choose, right now, between Obama & McCain, I'm lots closer to voting for Obama.
 

intet_at_tabe

Rear Admiral Appassionata (Ret.)
The "Waffling" Clinton's are at it again ...

You may remember that Hillary was to resign the race for candidacy on Tuesday night (the 3rd), then "waffled" it to Friday night (6th), and has now "waffled" it once more to Saturday (7th). Good golly, miss Molly, give it up Hillary, ... it's been over for many weeks now ... I certainly hope Obama doesn't even consider for one moment naming her as his veep - I think that would spell disaster for the Democratic party.

So having to choose, right now, between Obama & McCain, I'm lots closer to voting for Obama.

Master Krummhorn :tiphat:

Do you refer to Obama´s or McCain´s chances of winning or to each their policies as dems. or reps. for America?

If the last, what are each of their policies?

Respectfully,
 

Krummhorn

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Why Obama, Krummhorn? based on something specific or in general?

Hi Muza,
McCain set a new "all time" record for having missed the most voting sessions of the Arizona Senate than any other in history here. That is not setting a good example for a prospective president, at least, imho.

Master Krummhorn :tiphat:

Do you refer to Obama´s or McCain´s chances of winning or to each their policies as dems. or reps. for America?

If the last, what are each of their policies? Respectfully,

Hi Intet,
Chances of winning ...

All I see of their "policies" is how much mud each other can sling upon the other. I was registered Republican for almost 40 years - switched to Independent after the last Arizona Governor election as all each candidate was doing was slinging mud at each other. Nothing about what they would do for this state, just how bad the other person was ... I abstained from voting at all in that state election year, and right after that changed my voter affiliation. In the current presidential race, the mud is once again flying ... and we as a nation will face the challenge in November (again) of voting for the "lesser of two evils." The major parties are not giving us much of a choice these days ... Come November though, my vote will probably be a crapshoot ... or I'll just flip a coin in the voting booth.
 

intet_at_tabe

Rear Admiral Appassionata (Ret.)
Hi Intet,
Chances of winning ...

Thank you for the answer, Master Krummhorn :tiphat:

We´ll have to wait until November and see. Had Hillary completely unexpectedly and undeserved won the nomination, I would say John McCain had not had anything to worry about, since a heck of a lot of Dems. would rather vote for him, though he is a republican, than her. Even most of the female democrats, shown in the past few months on various polls, would vote for anybody else, but her. She has realy done it to herself. Like jumping out from a skyscraber expecting for someone to bring her a parashute ...goin down down down.

I expect a very close race, unless the spin doctors from each party disclose some, so far hidden scandale done by any of the two candidates, presented anonymously to the media.

Obama the newbie politician, an educated lawyer, who stands for a "change", whatever that means? McCain, who on the paper has all the nessesary ingrediences from former US Presidents, like - soldiering, a war time hero being captured and spend five years imprisonment and the victim of torture and with long time experience in politics - which due to this election may not nessesarely be the best quallity.

But right now, we simply do not know, and I unfortunately do agree with you that all this mud spreading is lame for these guys. The people should have the right as citizens to have some precise formulated answers that you guys could choose from. Not just whether one candidate will retire your soldiers from Iraq?

You have a nice cool :rolleyes::grin: weekend sir.
 

intet_at_tabe

Rear Admiral Appassionata (Ret.)
intet I just can't understand why a Dane would have such a strong opinion on American politics

CT64 :tiphat:

Since this was not a question from Down Under, only an admittence on ignorance from a marketing consultant in chocolate. I agree with you - You don´t understand. :grin::rolleyes:

But let me serve a question to you instead, knowing you´re not much for anecdotes about President Junior. Why do you think the three pictures above showing President George W. Bush and the US Airforce kadet were entered on any world wide news paper and website? ;)
 

intet_at_tabe

Rear Admiral Appassionata (Ret.)
Hillary endorses Obama.

Hillary Clinton gave the kind of speach of farewell to the possibility to be the first female American President in the history of the USA, but also a great but humble HELLO to America and of course all the people, who have worked hard and supported her career.

On the other side, she did not manage to explane how she for months has talked directly about Barack Obama: Barack Obama is simply not fit to be the President of the USA.

But the overall impression, also among American commentators, who followed the CNN like I, around noon in the US - is still to her benefit. A good loser, but much to late. She gave the best speech of her time in politics, and as a contradiction to her own particular mud spreading campain against Barack Obama. Today saying Thank You to everybody, somehow obviously a bit bitter, she gave her full support of the next democratical President in the USA - Barack Obama come November 2008.
 
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intet_at_tabe

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So the historical election 2008 come Nowember 4. for the Presidency of the United States of America has entered a new stage. On one side the Republican John McCain and as we all expected yesterday the Democrat Barack Obama, when the Democrat Hillary Clinton resigned her campain officially, thrown out by Barack Obama.

There´s a golden rule in all politics thoughout the world: When you cast your oponent to be the under-dog from the beginning, you might end up the loser yourself equals Hillary Clinton.

Here are some comments on John McCain and Barack Obama, by the BBC News, England:


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Q&A: What happens next in US election year?


The race for the White House will almost certainly be decided between Barack Obama for the Democrats and John McCain for the Republicans.

Hillary Clinton's concession speech on 7 June put an end to the hard slog for the Democratic ticket and now only the summer party conventions remain to crown the candidates.
The actual presidential election will be held on 4 November.

What remains to be decided before the conventions?

Neither Mr Obama nor Mr McCain has chosen a vice-presidential running mate yet.

Obama's potential running mates


The Democrat has picked a three-member, high-profile selection panel which includes Caroline Kennedy, daughter of the late President John F Kennedy.
It is an open question whom he will choose, although Hillary Clinton's campaign has distanced her from the competition.

McCain's potential running mates


According to Republicans close to Mr McCain's campaign, Reagan administration veteran AB Culvahouse is advising him on his choice.

There are fewer Republicans in Congress, which may restrict Mr McCain's choice.

When and where will the parties convene?

The Democrats will hold their convention in Denver, Colorado, on 25-28 August.
The Republicans meet in Minneapolis, Minnesota, on 1-4 September.

When do the big debates start?

TV debates are due to be held on 26 September, and 7 and 15 October.
The running mates, whoever they turn out to be, will hold a single televised debate on 2 October.
Intriguingly, Mr Obama and Mr McCain may also go up against each other in unmoderated, town hall-style debates before the conventions, their campaigns have indicated.

Which states can expect special attention on the campaign trail?

Mr McCain and Mr Obama have been focusing attention on the states that could vote either way in November.
The list includes large ones like Florida, Michigan, Ohio and Pennsylvania, and smaller ones such as Colorado, Iowa, Minnesota, Nevada, New Mexico, New Hampshire, Oregon, Virginia and Wisconsin.

Will Mrs Clinton still figure in the election?

She could be angling for a job in Mr Obama's administration, if he is elected. It is also reported that she would like Mr Obama to help her pay back some of her campaign's debts and that Bill Clinton could be keen on some kind of role in the Democratic general election campaign.", end of article from the BBC News, England.

Only to keep a political objective mind and focus on what at the moment seems to be the best chances ever for a man and a politician of coloured skin possibly, to be elected by the American people to the office of the President of The United States of America.

Since there are far more African Americans added up with people of the Hispanich, Japanese and China decendents than there are caucasion white americans in the USA today, and since Obama showed Hillary Clinton the door yesterday, I predict this finishing of the 2008 election to reach new hights of evil devastating mud spreading by the two candidates against one another in the race for The White House on Penn. Ave. in Washington DC, come November 4. - But in the end all African Americans and probably everyone else of none caucasion white skin - in the USA IMHO will now vote for Barack Obama.
 
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Andrew Roussak

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Ah, guys, it only shows me how unnecessary complicated the US election system is. You should better try the Russian way.

That is, George W. Bush near the end of his second term should have said, "People, I had actually enough of you . This good man ( say, McCain ) will take my place in this house, and I will be his prime minister. After 4 or 8 years, we will swap our places again, so you won't have to learn the new surnames of your Presidents every 8 years ".

That easy, no stress and almost no elections needed. And the electorate may spend more time watching football matches, or soaps, or other useful things rather than boring debates.
 

Muza

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Lols at Andrew - that is funny! But i think that is exactly what its gonna be like a few years down the road ;) (well, maybe not few, but who knows)
 
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