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    The Great Flush...

    Well folks,

    About 300,000 gallons of water per second are pouring through the jet valves at the base of the Glen Canyon Dam in order to redo the streambed and riverside characteristics of the Colorado River between Glen Canyon Dam and the Hoover Dam. The level of Lake Mead behind Hoover Dam will see a rise of about four feet at the end of the flush. Just a little more than a month ago, the media were screaming about the low levels of water in Lake Mead. Under the guise of reconfiguring the riverside and streambed, The Feds are recharging Lake Mead. Funny how the media and "indie" journalists are so woefully clueless about the greater picture.

    Here's a pic of whats happening:

    http://photos.mongabay.com/08/0305dam.jpg

    And here's a vid:

    http://static.koaa.zope.net/includes...&id=x408979345




    Cheers,

    CD
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    300.000 gallons of water per second that is a heck of a lot of water/shower for one guy.

    I believe, I´ve read somewhere or perhaps seen on the Discovery Channel that the Hoower Dam was the biggest architechtural work at the time, when it was built and many a worker died during the process finishing it.

    The Grand Canyon is one of the places on the planet, I would love to go to and spend some time there alone, just walking around there like an anonymous person from our pre-history, when these great flat rocks were created.

    I saw an old movie from America called "Zabriskie Point" from 1970 starring Mark Flechette and Rod Taylor. There is a scene in the movie, where Mark Flechette makes love to this beautiful woman with very long blond hair - yummi, whose name I can´t for "The Life Of Brian" remember. It´s in the middle of the Grand Canyon.
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    Quote Originally Posted by intet-at-tabe View Post
    . . . . .
    The Grand Canyon is one of the places on the planet, I would love to go to and spend some time there alone, just walking around there like an anonymous person from our pre-history, when these great flat rocks were created.
    It is a grand place to see for certain ... it's about a 5 hour drive from where I live ... There are two "rims" - the most common one visited is the South Rim where all the 'curio shops' thrive and a restaurant with severely inflated prices. The North Rim is higher elevation (completely inaccessible in the winter due to snow levels) and has pine trees - lovely place for outdoor camping.

    Corno Dolce,
    Indeed, Lake Mead has been shrinking over the past 10 years or so ... the marina has had to relocate twice, and last time through that area, part of it was on dry land. Hopefully this 'new' water will bring life back to a very popular lake.
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    Hi Krummhorn,

    Yes, Grand Canyon is a grand spectacle. Europe has older cities than the U.S. but America has its fair share of stunning natural beauty like the Tetons, The Sierras in California, the mountain ranges in Alaska, the Rockies and many others.

    Cheers,

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    Sweet Corn ... old, but quite young in comparison with my homeland.

    Back to the original thread ... we've just come out of a horror drought (though the state of Victoria is still in its grip) and desalination plants are popping up all over the places.

    Warragamba Dam (Sydney's main source of drinking water) is now filling up enough for the authorities to flood the local river with water ... I can't remember the rationale behind this, and even though I work for a company known for its water/wastewater and conveyance work it's out of my league. I'll see if I can't find some answers.

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    Please look at the highest mountain in Europe. The Mont Blanc in France:

    http://images.google.com/imgres?imgu...%3Den%26sa%3DG
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    Quote Originally Posted by intet-at-tabe View Post
    Please look at the highest mountain in Europe. The Mont Blanc in France:

    http://images.google.com/imgres?imgu...%3Den%26sa%3DG
    Of course this is nothing compared to the devilish mountain in Denmark, called the Himmelbjerget equals in english "mountain of the sky". Some Danish idiot, never been abroad found this name:

    http://www.himmelbjerget.dk/hovedside-eng.html

    Less than 500 feet

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    Hi Intet,

    I really thought that "Himmelbjerget" meant the "Mountain Of Heaven."

    Cheers,

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    Quote Originally Posted by Corno Dolce View Post
    Hi Intet,

    I really thought that "Himmelbjerget" meant the "Mountain Of Heaven."

    Cheers,

    CD
    Pull my leg any time, Doctor Corno Dolce I love it

    You´re right of course. But the reason I entered the link for everyone to see, that´s it for mountains - or hill tops in Denmark. Rather sarcastic and difficult to imagine anyone trying out the World Cup in the discipline - Down Hill.

    However the Mont Blanc in France looks great, eh???
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    Hi Intet,

    Yes, a great spectacle to behold. The funny thing with Mont Blanc is that it really doesn't totally belong to France. In 1861 there was a convention between the Kingdom of Sardinia and France in which the border was fixed at the peak of Mont Blanc.

    However, that border is often not recognised by France. As in business, once you have ratified a contract, that contract is binding until one of the parties makes official its intent to nullify the contract or ceases to adhere to the terms and conditions of the contract.

    Thusly, both Italy and France "share" that mountain.

    Cheers,

    CD
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    *Protagoras: "Truth is subjective. What is true for you, and what is true for me, is true for me. Your opinion is true by virtue of its being your opinion."

    *Socrates: "My opinion is: Truth is absolute, not opinion, and that you are in absolute error. Since this is my opinion, then according to your philosophy you must grant that it is true."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Corno Dolce View Post
    Hi Intet,

    Yes, a great spectacle to behold. The funny thing with Mont Blanc is that it really doesn't totally belong to France. In 1861 there was a convention between the Kingdom of Sardinia and France in which the border was fixed at the peak of Mont Blanc.

    However, that border is often not recognised by France. As in business, once you have ratified a contract, that contract is binding until one of the parties makes official its intent to nullify the contract or ceases to adhere to the terms and conditions of the contract.

    Thusly, both Italy and France "share" that mountain.

    Cheers,

    CD
    For your info dear sir Corno Dolce

    The city of Grenoble in France was the center of the winter Olympic´s years ago in skiing, but then you´ve had guys like Ingemar Steenmark, Sweden on this kind of narrow wooden planks as well The city of Grenoble, part of the french alphes, where Mont Blanc is the tallest mountain of all, not only in France nor Italy.

    Respectfully and humbly,

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    Hi Intet,

    Grenoble? Last I heard it was a part of France and not a kingdom like Sardinia once was - Aha - then we must go back in European History before the French Revolution - back to the Middle Ages...Ah but, we cannot rewrite History, although there have been many idiotic regimes in the past who have desperately tried to.......

    Cheers,

    CD
    *If a man wants God to hear his prayer quickly, then before he prays for anything else, even his own soul, when he stands and stretches out his hands towards God, he must pray with all his heart for his enemies. Through this action God will hear everything that he asks* -Abba Zeno-

    *Protagoras: "Truth is subjective. What is true for you, and what is true for me, is true for me. Your opinion is true by virtue of its being your opinion."

    *Socrates: "My opinion is: Truth is absolute, not opinion, and that you are in absolute error. Since this is my opinion, then according to your philosophy you must grant that it is true."

    "Improvisational Art": http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qSxVO3EoCRM

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    Quote Originally Posted by Corno Dolce View Post
    Hi Intet,

    Grenoble? Last I heard it was a part of France and not a kingdom like Sardinia once was - Aha - then we must go back in European History before the French Revolution - back to the Middle Ages...Ah but, we cannot rewrite History, although there have been many idiotic regimes in the past who have desperately tried to.......

    Cheers,

    CD
    Corno Dolce

    Since the French Revolution, as you surely must know was in 1789, when the ordinary population of France revolted against the tyrant Catholic Church and the Royal Family in France with all it´s Louis the 14-15-16 introducing the act of decappetating of heads in the plural tense, both of them the church and the Royal Family controling every matter of politics, the military, religion, cultural matters even agriculture on how less food were left for the ordinary folks suffering for years on end, even the Three Musketeers - Athos, Porthos and Aramis took part in this lavendish living at the time before 1789.

    Of course the later general of all French wars against any country in the old Europe, the notorius - though some called him famous instead, however master of military tactichs Napoleon Bonaparte from the island of Corsica had no intensions of changing the rules of, where to put all the French franc. Of course he tried to change the history as well, until he finally met his own Waterloo, being beaten senseless by the English.

    Sardinia a Kingdom you say, well thank you dear sir for this history teaching. I had no idea. I mostly recognize Sardins to be fish

    But what has it all got to do with the Swede ski expert Ingemar Steenmark and the winter Olympics at Grenoble???

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    Ah Intet,

    Not only Lord Wellington but Gebhard Blücher were waiting for Bonaparte at Waterloo. Both Wellington and Blücher outflanked Bonaparte's already tattered Division of troops and ground them into so much hamburger meat whilst Bonaparte tried to escape but he was captured and later died in prison.

    Apropos Grenoble - I really didn't understand what you tried to say when you mentioned Grenoble in the same breath as the convention betwixt France and the Kingdom of Sardinia. Oh well, its water over the dam now and quite unimportant.

    Respectfully yours,

    CD

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    Quote Originally Posted by Corno Dolce View Post
    Ah Intet,

    Not only Lord Wellington but Gebhard Blücher were waiting for Bonaparte at Waterloo. Both Wellington and Blücher outflanked Bonaparte's already tattered Division of troops and ground them into so much hamburger meat whilst Bonaparte tried to escape but he was captured and later died in prison.

    Apropos Grenoble - I really didn't understand what you tried to say when you mentioned Grenoble in the same breath as the convention betwixt France and the Kingdom of Sardinia. Oh well, its water over the dam now and quite unimportant.

    Respectfully yours,

    CD
    Dear sir Corno Dolce

    The sad thing about Napoleon Bonaparte also the President of France, through a cupe-de-tard at a time was, his armies spread on any front in Europe (always a losing strategy) didn´t have boots nor clothes to wear, most of the new produced riffles fired backwards killing or injuring the soldier with his finger on the tricker, because they were to fast and purely manufactored, like the rest of the ordinary France - in a very poor shape.

    So what we have learned as Europeans throughout our European history is that it is never enough to have a huge army. Soldiers like anyone else need to be respected, eat twice a day at least and have the right not to freeze to their individual departure from this earth on a foreign field.

    Impressed with your historical correct sound knowledge on Wellington and Blucher, however not impressed with your statement:

    I really didn't understand what you tried to say when you mentioned Grenoble in the same breath as the convention betwixt France and the Kingdom of Sardinia.

    I never mentioned the convention between the Kingdom of Sardenia and France. But as you already said, it´s water over the dam.
    Btw. another expression "Water over the dam", I learned from you dear honorable sir.

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