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    Admiral Maestoso marval's Avatar
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    Is the organ dead?

    Is the organ dead?

    Somebody asked me that question.

    Well I don't play one, but the answer had to be no. Here on MIMF is living proof.

    If you click on the link below, and scrowl down and click on The organ is dead you will see what I mean.


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    Hi Margaret,

    The article points out lots of sad things happening to these once stately organs. Thinking about all the labor hours that went into the construction of these pipe organs and how quickly they are demolished is absolutely horrifying. When a building is about to be razed, and there is an organ worth saving, they are advertised for sale, but as in most cases, the buyer must remove it at their own expense, and usually by a well defined non-movable date. Sometimes the costs of just removal alone far exceed the value to be realized, even after a complete restoration.

    The more a pipe organ is played, the better for all its internal working parts - some of those organs pictured may have been sitting silent for several years ... and as such become a nightmare for restoration, not to mention the cost of doing so.

    There is also routine maintenance for any pipe organ ... tuning ... usually done at least twice a year - on the average. When the tuner visits, they also take care of a few little problems (preventative maintenance) before they become big expensive problems. If the pipe organ is neglected for several years because of budget constraints or no funds available for tuning/repair, the organ falls into dis-repair ... arthritis sets in, and eventually the instrument becomes totally unplayable, and is eventually either sold or scrapped. I guess economics enters into the picture establishing value in terms of restoration costs vs what the scrap dealer will pay.

    The pipe organ is far from dead ... I think the "living ones" far exceed the "dead ones" probably thousands to one. We have lots of dedicated people here in MIMF Land who are doing their part in preserving our King of Instruments.
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    Hi Krummhorn

    And long may the organ live.

    Unfortunately cost does play a factor, but all historical organs and buildings shoud be saved if at all possible.


    Margaret

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    Quote Originally Posted by Krummhorn View Post
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    The pipe organ is far from dead ... I think the "living ones" far exceed the "dead ones" probably thousands to one. We have lots of dedicated people here in MIMF Land who are doing their part in preserving our King of Instruments.
    And over her the "living ones" are dying due to a lack of organists and persons with the necessary skills to maintain them.

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    Here in Iceland the organ is well alive (2-3 new organs are in the plans or are in beginning phase of construction), but the church administration are well on their way to destroy the future of organists as an occupation. I for one are really considering wether I will continue to pursue this occupation or change a career, or at least change it from main occupation to a side occupation or freelance.
    I feel very sad about it because I really love to play on my instrument but I feel there is no other option for me than rethinking my future career path.

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    Falcon1 ... I'd love to know how Icelanders deal with bitterly cold church buildings in winter and keeping organs playable? I can only assume your heating bills must be astronomical.

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    Contratrombone64, most churches here are heated with geothermal energy. Some small places doesn't have that but then it is most often heated with electricity.
    The heating bills are rather cheap here compared to most other countries because we have plenty of energy under our feet. Unfortunatly politicians are keen to use way too much of our energy in pollution factories like aluminium smelters and on ridiculous low prices - but that's another discussion.

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    falcon, thanks for your response. Fascinating place, maybe one day I'll travel there! have you been to Australia ever? I met and Icelander once in Sydney (he was on vacation). All I remember of him was that he was very tall, very blue eyed, very blonde and very charming.

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    Hi falcon1,

    I often travel to Iceland and have tried to follow the debate in regards to the Aluminum producer on the Eastern end of Iceland. I had read that one of Europes largest Hydroelectric dams was built specifically to produce electricity for the Aluminum company's operations which entails the refining of Bauxite in order to produce Aluminum. It requires enormous quantites of electricity for Aluminum production to take place and so, consequently, only a small fraction goes into the grid for everyone else.

    Back on topic: Were it not for the conscientious efforts of Organists, Universities, Organ Builders and Organ aficionados the art of Organ Building would die on the vine.

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    Contra, yup you must come and visit someday - most beautiful country in the world, unfortunatly one of the most expensive one too.
    No, I have never been to Australia but would like to visit someday and check out those organs in Sydney. Just worried that it will be too hot for me though, I feel not very good when the temprature goes over 25 degrees celsius hehe...

    Corno Dolce, interesting! You must contact me next when you will visit Iceland, will be nice to meet a member from this forum.
    Yes, you're right - that dam was only built because of that aluminium smelter in east fjords of Iceland. Unfortunatly the price that company pays for the electricity is ridiculously low!

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