*raises hand shyly....*

[rhapsody89]

Very valuable insight! Thank you, kind people. Just for fun, I think I'll try to post a picture of the organ. Andrew, I'm pretty sure we didn't inherit a lady named "Leslie" ~ for, if we had, I would have put her to work right away as a housekeeper and nanny (now that's an inheritance I'd sing about)!!! *insert "winking happy face"* because I'm not sure where to find one. However, upon examining the list of features in the pamphlet I do read the following: "Leslie Upper, Leslie Lower, Leslie Reverb, Leslie Chorale...." Apparently we've got a whole bunch ~ and you say they need to be "fed"...! Yikes!

 

[methodistgirl]

You are very welcome!:grin:
judy tooley

 

[Krummhorn]

rhapsody89,

Is this similar to the organ you have?

[YOUTUBE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U8jexocypA4[/YOUTUBE]

 

[Andrew Roussak]

....Now that is the thing you own, right?


http://cgi.ebay.com/Hammond-Commodo...9026033QQihZ005QQcategoryZ16219QQcmdZViewItem

 

[intet_at_tabe]

Intet, I would really love to do that :grin::grin::grin:. But you know, it's not all that simple...

Mat :tiphat::clap:

Remember the old adverb: Where there´s a will, there´s a way!!

 

[Mat]

Thank you, Intet:tiphat:. You're absolutely right.

 

[intet_at_tabe]

Thank you, Intet:tiphat:. You're absolutely right.

Mat :tiphat:

From out of pure curiosity, what would you pay for a new Hammond B3 organ in Poland???

 

[Mat]

For my dear friend Intet:tiphat:

Hammond B3-classic ~ 50,000,00PLN (~23,255,00USD)
Hammond B3-portable ~ 50,000,00PLN (~23,255,00USD)
Hammond B3-ultimo exclusive ~ 80,000,00PLN (~37,209,00USD)

 

[rhapsody89]

rhapsody89,

Is this similar to the organ you have?

Yes.

I was going to take a picture of ours but I'm waiting for my husband to put the big pedal attachment back on it first (we put that away from the children so they wouldn't "dance" on it).

Oh! Hey, look! There's the emoticons...I found them.:clap: I guess they don't show up in the "quick reply."

 

[Krummhorn]

For my dear friend Intet:tiphat:

Hammond B3-classic ~ 50,000,00PLN (~23,255,00USD)
Hammond B3-portable ~ 50,000,00PLN (~23,255,00USD)
Hammond B3-ultimo exclusive ~ 80,000,00PLN (~37,209,00USD)

Wow, Mat ...

Is that the going price in Poland that everyone would have to pay?
We have US cars that are cheaper priced than that :lol:

 

[Mat]

Wow, Mat ...

Is that the going price in Poland that everyone would have to pay?

Well yes, pretty much. But remember. Hammond is not as popular in Poland as in the U.S. I think that's the main reason of these high prices... I'm not surprised I can't afford to buy even the cheap one. And yes, where I live I could also buy a car at this price.

And what is the average price in the States??

 

[Krummhorn]

Hi Mat,

I've seen the better ones on eBay from $4,000 to $8,000 - those always include the Leslie. I imagine at even that price, the shipping to Poland would be almost prohibitive as those old tone wheel organs are, as I recall, quite heavy.

 

[Mat]

4,000 for new Hammond B3????? Wow, That is cheeeaaap:clap::clap::clap:

 

[Krummhorn]

Well, it's not "new", but rather "refurbished" ...
There is one on eBay for about $8k.

Hammond re-introduced the B3 in 2002 or 2003 ... however it is a digital version, sans the old tone wheels. Holy crap ... to my surprise it's expensive ... msrp of nearly $25k USD. Well, you were right ... my eyes just got opened, again. :crazy:

 

[Mat]

Too bad...

Well, I've got a question.

Main sound source in most of the Hammond models are tone wheels, right (The tone is being produced as the tone wheels rotate)? And those new Hammonds (for example new B3) don't have tone wheels [?]. So, is there much difference between old ones and new ones when it comes to the tone color??

 

[Krummhorn]

I think what Hammond has done, is capture the old tone wheel "sound" and recorded it into a digital format, then store it on memory chips.

Similar to what other electronic manufacturers, like Allen for instance, that have taken pipe samples and recorded each note individually, then saved that sound "image" digitally.

The sound will appear to the be the same, but the method on how that sound is produced has changed.

 

[Andrew Roussak]

Too bad...

Well, I've got a question.

Main sound source in most of the Hammond models are tone wheels, right (The tone is being produced as the tone wheels rotate)? And those new Hammonds (for example new B3) don't have tone wheels [?]. So, is there much difference between old ones and new ones when it comes to the tone color??

Hi Mat,

for the case you are really interested - one can buy a REALLY CHEAP old Hammond on Ebay - Germany. This will not be necessary a B- or C- modification - rather E, A, M, L series. Then you will have to find a technician who can give a new life to an instrument. It is absolutely possible - kinda you buy an oldtimer ( a car produced 50 or like yrs. ago ) and then restore it. The whole affair can cost app. 1000 Eur. Just visit ebay.de...

To your question - I was several times on Hammond presentation they make on the Frankfurt Music Fair ( Musikmesse, app. 15-20th of March every year ). So, a new B3 is an electronic version of an old one ( in a way other clones like Roland VK, Korg CX, Oberheim OB, Hammond XK are ). That is, tone wheels are modelled and synthesized. I can honestly tell you - many of these clones are that sophisticated made, that I do not hear any difference. May be some Hammond purists do. For my years, even the software version of Native Instruments B4 II sounds absolutely acceptable.

Another question is, that every Hammond - due to a unique amount of leakage , keyclick etc. - have a somewhat unique sound. All new electronic B3s must sound the same - that is the point to have YOUR OWN OLD INSTRUMENT, which does not sound like any other. Of course, there is also a little bit of a story behind every Hammond....

 

[Mat]

Krummhorn, Andrew - thank you very much for your help, guys:tiphat:.

Andrew,

I am a big fan of the Hammond organ and the whole sound concept. I did some searching, too. I saw different models on ebay and on Allegro (Polish counterpart of ebay). However, in my current situation I cannot afford to buy neither new nor used/refurbished instrument....

Musikmesse, yes. I was planning to go there this year with bunch of my friends, but couldn't do that because of the last few, very busy months. So, you say one can find Hammond on the Music Fair? Is there a lot of other keyboard-related stuff there? I sincerly hope that I am going to make it to next year Frankfurt Muic Fair. Who knows, maybe we'll meet:grin:


Best regards,
Mat

 

[Corno Dolce]

Oh yes - The "Frankfurter Musik Messe" - What a cool happening!!!

 

[Andrew Roussak]

Krummhorn, Andrew - thank you very much for your help, guys:tiphat:.

Andrew,

I am a big fan of the Hammond organ and the whole sound concept. I did some searching, too. I saw different models on ebay and on Allegro (Polish counterpart of ebay). However, in my current situation I cannot afford to buy neither new nor used/refurbished instrument....

Musikmesse, yes. I was planning to go there this year with bunch of my friends, but couldn't do that because of the last few, very busy months. So, you say one can find Hammond on the Music Fair? Is there a lot of other keyboard-related stuff there? I sincerly hope that I am going to make it to next year Frankfurt Muic Fair. Who knows, maybe we'll meet:grin:


Best regards,
Mat

Hey Mat,

Musikmesse is an event of a year for lots of musicicans and music fans! It is worth a visit anyway. They have two VERY LARGE halls for keyboards/software companies only. So you can find there actually everything you might have an interest to - KORG, Roland, Hammond, even Moog, Clavia...Lots of it. You may try yourself any of these instruments or get it presented by a company personal.

One another highlight is a piano hall , where only pianos are presented - from Samick to Steinway ( ), all sizes....All are playable for everyone.

Hammond ( the European section of it, which has its HQ in Holland ) has always a separate stand in a keyboard hall with a presentation cabin and live shows.

So, if you go there in 2009 - surely we can arrange a meeting !! Living within an hour from Frankfurt ( with a car ) I have a natural advantage , so I spend a day on the Messe every year since 2001!!