Minuet in G major, Bach

[Contratrombone64]

I understand this delightful little piece (we all learned it) was not written by Bach at all, but by Christian Pezold (from Dresden).

[greatcyber]

Does that make JSB a plagarist?

[Contratrombone64]

Johan Sebastian was a GREAT plagarist, but he made no secret of the fact. However, in the grand scheme of things (that is his BWV list) 95% are original. He wrote some very fine transcriptions of Vivaldi Concerti and others of the era who are now totally unknown.

Gotta remember, with two wives, dozens of children, the poor bugger barely had time for his favourite past time: hanging out in the local cafe sipping coffee.

In fact, Bach's adoration for Coffee is exalted rather wonderfully in the Coffee Cantata (where the petulant and demanding girl of the story has terse words with her father about not getting married if she can't have her coffee).

[greatcyber]

That's a tasty tidbit of information. Who doesn't love their coffee? Today I made my morning coffee with Arabica beans that I grew and roasted myself when we were in Florida. I have enough left for about one more pot. I hated to leave that plant behind...so I sold it.

Stephen

[Contratrombone64]

I think you'll find coffee in Monetreal a much more authentic experience than you'll have been used to south of the border.

[rojo]

So they have said. None of us can really verify this as fact however, now can we. (Now where did I put my trusty time machine? )

It comes from the Anna Magdalena Keyboard booklet. In my edition, the piece is credited to Chr. Petzold, and there are various pieces by various composers in it, including Couperin. Somehow a number of them got credited to JSB, I guess because they were all in one of his books. Oops.

Everyone refers to it as a Bach piece though, even today. I believe it's either the second or third most requested piece by students. I hope Petzold forgives him. Quite a travesty if one dwells on it....

And yep, one should be able to find a decent coffee in this city. But I don't know where because I don't have it all that often.

[Contratrombone64]

Rojo - in the Australian Syllabus for the Music Examinations Board, it's now (rightfully) accredited to poor old Her Petzold!

[Contratrombone64]

Here's the beautiful little and its neighbour (often performed as one piece).

Please note - treble clef wasn't standardised until more recently than one would imagine.

[Corno Dolce]

Oh Ya CT64,

I hate to burst your bubble but Zimmermann's Cafe in Leipzig hosted JSBach's Collegium Musicum - Here's a sketch of a street in Leipzig where that cafe was located:

http://www.baroquemusic.org/lzcath32.jpg

Its in the building with the number two written above it.

Cheers,

CD

Johan Sebastian was a GREAT plagarist, but he made no secret of the fact. However, in the grand scheme of things (that is his BWV list) 95% are original. He wrote some very fine transcriptions of Vivaldi Concerti and others of the era who are now totally unknown.

Gotta remember, with two wives, dozens of children, the poor bugger barely had time for his favourite past time: hanging out in the local cafe sipping coffee.

In fact, Bach's adoration for Coffee is exalted rather wonderfully in the Coffee Cantata (where the petulant and demanding girl of the story has terse words with her father about not getting married if she can't have her coffee).

[Contratrombone64]

No bubbles burst my dear friend, thanks, love anything Bach related, for sure.

[rojo]

Rojo - in the Australian Syllabus for the Music Examinations Board, it's now (rightfully) accredited to poor old Her Petzold!

In the McGill Conservatory syllabus, it's listed under J. S. Bach, but they specify (attr.). I suspect because they wished to list all the pieces from the Anna Magdalena book all under the same heading, thus all grouped together.