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    Commander, Assistant Conductor Strunch's Avatar
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    There should be a drivers license for parenting, but I'm sure that would result in a few Oscar winning movies about the pooooor good-minded parents who failed the test, only to be united with their child in the end - in a sunset - in the carribean - on a boat. Fighting the evil society that didn't let them spoil their dear child into a criminal anti-social ADHD-wreck. Oh my.

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    The problems in England started when parents became afraid to say no. Children should be free to express themselves, good, but not to be rude or abusive. They should not be denied anything they want or be blamed for anything they do or you are a bad parent. It is always someone elses fault never theirs. My neighbours children broke into my garden, damaged plants, poured petrol on some others and stole items (of little value it is true). Despite some of the items being found in their garden the parents denied everything and blamed others. When one of my daughters got into the wrong crowd at school she came home and admitted shoplifting. We took her back to the shop where she underwent an uncomfortable interview with the manager, a lecture from me and the next day it was not mentioned again. That was the only incident, and we were never had any trouble again. The secret is not to be afraid to say no, or punish them when they are in the wrong. A short sharp shook that they will remember and stay with them for life. It is gratifying to see that they use the same menthods with their children and it works. A quick smack if it is something like being rude to an adult can work wonders as long as you spend enough time talking to them when they are young and explaining right from wrong. I have regretted the few occassions when I have smacked any of my children but I do believe that sometimes tough love is better than leting them get away with what may turn out to be murder at a later date. Anyone who wants an insite into the criminal mind could do worse than read "In Cold Blood" by Trueman Capote. You can see how these two youg men turned to murder throuh a lack of good parenting and disipline.
    teddy

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    I know all about it. I remember that my parents didn't use a
    Dr. Spock book to raise me. They used the Bible's rules and
    believe me it works. There is one proverb in it that says
    "Teach the child the ways you have them to go and they won't
    depart from it." I know how it is here. Teenagers are using more
    profanity than the last generation. To me that's shocking to
    hear a fowl mouth in gear full of filthy words and cussing.
    The Lord's name doesn't end with a D.
    judy tooley

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    Here's some good, wholesome advice from the Bible (Deuteronomy):

    22.5

    The woman shall not wear that which pertaineth unto a man, neither shall a man put on a woman's garment: for all that do so are abomination unto the LORD thy God.

    Damn it, there's goes my drag routines and all my female friends who wear trousers are condemned!

    22.3

    If a damsel that is a virgin be betrothed unto a husband, and a man find her in the city, and lie with her then ye shall bring them both out unto the gate of that city, and ye shall stone them with stones that they die; the damsel, because she cried not, being in the city; and the man, because he hath humbled his neighbor's wife: so thou shalt put away evil from among you.

    Just don't get this one at all, poor damsel and poor husband

    Shall I continue??
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    I'm not an atheist and I don't think I can call myself a pantheist. We are in the position of a little child entering a huge library filled with books in many different languages. The child knows someone must have written those books. It does not know how. The child dimly suspects a mysterious order in the arrangement of the books but doesn't know what it is. That, it seems to me, is the attitude of even the most intelligent human being toward God.
    —Albert Einstein.

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    Where were you when I was geting married? I am sure that if you had quoted that second one it would have saved me. We would have spent too much time trying to work out what it meant!
    teddy

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