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    Rachmaninov's enough to put me to sleep ...

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    If you're as serious about this work as I am (I currently have over 20 different recordings), then you need to hear it as conducted by Alexander Sveshnikov in the very first recording made in 1965, now reissued on the Russian Melodiya label. The soloist in 'Bless the Lord, O My Soul' is worth the price of the whole CD.

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    Admiral Honkenwheezenpooferspieler Corno Dolce's Avatar
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    Aloha Kuhlau,

    I love the Sveshnikov recording - I had hoped to find it on YouTube but no luck so far. I lent it to a friend but never got it back.

    Cheerio,

    Corno Dolce

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    The Sveshnikov is very special, I agree. And Paul Hillier's recording for Harmonia Mundi a couple of years ago is also absolutely essential listening.

    Another strong recommendation is this one:


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    Admiral Honkenwheezenpooferspieler Corno Dolce's Avatar
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    Aloha Kuhlau,

    The Sveshnikov had those octavists in the bass section which gave the work a whole other dimension - Once you've heard a couple of bass octavists in a choir its nary impossible to listen to another choir sing it. Thanx for your recommendations....

    Cheerio.

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    i discovered Rachmaninov with the vespers, by the red army if i remember well. i knew at once i would listen to it a lot more. it's always in homeopathic doses, but it seems to set a... well, by my way of hearing it.. a christmas mood. and i'm not a catholic. as powerful and powerful as Gorecki's third, in another genre.

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    Aloha sunwaiter,

    Homeopathic doses? please dear sir, enlighten me what is meant by that. I have never heard those two words put together like that.

    Cheerio,

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    oh. sorry, it's a french expression. mm let's translate it this way: i listen to the vespers little by little

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    Ahhh - I see, thanx.

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    Sunwater, Rachmaninov's 'All-night Vigil' (to give the 'Vespers' their correct title), is very much Russian Orthodox Church music, far removed from any Catholic influence. Indeed, if you listen to sacred music from the Eastern and Western Christian church traditions, you'll find there's quite a marked difference between them.

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    Kuhlau, thx for the precision, though it doesn't really affect my way of hearing this music. i said Christmas mood but it could have been a forest, blue fly, football or waterfall mood ... i understand russian orthodoxy doesn't have much to do with some other religion ( except maybe its roots, although i know nothing about it ), but it really doesn't matter to me. but once again thank you for the info.

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