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    Admiral Honkenwheezenpooferspieler Corno Dolce's Avatar
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    The Glory Of Hauptwerk...

    Aloha Organ MIMF'ers and other interested parties,

    Just as the digital organ can provide an organ for the fraction of the cost of a real pipe organ, Hauptwerk can provide an organ for a fraction of the cost of a digital organ:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9tWdacyqJK8&fmt=18

    Cheerio,

    CD
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    The playing in that video is excellent, he has rhythm and flow to the music. I certainly can not come close.

    The lowest cost 3 manual Allen is about $40,000. The Hauptwerk system seems to be less than a quarter of the cost. I still prefer a real pipe organ which I am fortunate enough to have.

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    I got Hauptwerk working on my computer for the first time yesterday and was very impressed with it. Now I would like to get two manuals and pedals set up to make full use of it. I've also experimented with Miditzer, and I just wish I'd known about this type of software sooner.

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    Aloha AllanP,

    Yes, I do prefer a pipe organ but a Hauptwerk set-up is a perfectly acceptable system imho.

    Cheerio,

    CD

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    Quote Originally Posted by AllanP View Post
    The playing in that video is excellent, he has rhythm and flow to the music. I certainly can not come close.

    The lowest cost 3 manual Allen is about $40,000. The Hauptwerk system seems to be less than a quarter of the cost. I still prefer a real pipe organ which I am fortunate enough to have.
    Hello Allan,

    It feels great to know that yuo have a real pipe organ at your home. Can you give the descriptions of your organ like .... make , stop list, dimensions ,... etc.

    thanks,
    Alex

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    Dear Corno Dolce

    Of course Hauptwerk is a very good VPO (virtual pipe organ), but it is very expensive. It is the reason why I use an other VPO, not so reallistic but good enough for a freeware. Have you listen to my lastest musics made with this free organ ?
    Friendly yours. Jean-Paul

    Music is my placebo

    Please visit my channel and web site to hear the music I compose
    http://fr.youtube.com/organcomposer
    http://organ.monespace.net

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    Hello Allan,

    It feels great to know that you have a real pipe organ at your home. Can you give the descriptions of your organ like .... make , stop list, dimensions ,... etc.

    thanks,
    Alex
    My pipe organ is a Style D Wurlitzer built in 1927. I am seated at the console in the Avatar. The stop list is:

    PEDAL:
    Bass (Diaphone), 16'
    Bourdon, 16'
    Trumpet, 8'
    Open Diapason, 8'
    Tibia Clausa 8'
    Flute, 8'
    Cello, 8'
    Accompaniment to Pedal
    Solo to Pedal

    ACCOMPANIMENT MANUAL (Choir):
    Contra Viole (Ten. C), 16'
    Vox Humana (Ten. C), 16'
    Trumpet, 8'
    Open Diapason, 8'
    Tibia Clausa 8'
    Salicional, 8'
    Flute, 8'
    Vox Humana, 8'
    Octave, 4'
    Piccolo, 4'
    Salicet, 4'
    Flute, 4'
    Vox Humana, 4'
    Piccolo, 2'
    Chrysoglott
    Triangle
    Tambourine
    SECOND TOUCH
    Trumpet, 8'
    Tibia Clausa, 8'
    Chimes
    Triangle

    SOLO MANUAL (Great):
    Trumpet (Ten. C), 16'
    Bass, 16'
    Tibia Clausa (Ten. C), 16'
    Bourdon, 16'
    Vox Humana (Ten. C), 16'
    Trumpet, 8'
    Open Diapason, 8'
    Tibia Clausa, 8'
    Salicional, 8'
    Flute, 8'
    Vox Humana, 8'
    Octave, 4'
    Piccolo, 4'
    Salicet, 4'
    Flute, 4'
    Twelfth, 2 2/3'
    Piccolo, 2'
    Tierce, 1 3/5'
    Cathedral Chimes
    Glockenspiel
    Chrysoglott
    SECOND TOUCH
    Trumpet, 16'
    Tibia Clausa, 8'

    Five Adjustable Combination Pistons per manual

    The flute stops are open wood changing to open metal in the higher octaves. Otherwise, the pipe work is generally described by the stop name. The 4' Piccolo is somewhat similar to a harmonic flute. The 2' Piccolo is composed of fairly bright open metal pipes. The stops with the same stop name control the same pipes so that it is possible to mix and match combinations without the use of inter-manual couplers.

    The pipe chamber is a former bedroom about 15' by 11' with a 14' ceiling. The chamer shutters are located in an entrance hall. The entrance hall acts as a sound mixing chamber. The sound then goes through an archway into the rest of the house. This tends to "mellow" the sound which could be too intense if experienced directly.

    A short description and pictures are located at
    http://www.hochhalter.com/page23.html
    Last edited by AllanP; Nov-27-2008 at 02:16.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AllanP View Post
    My pipe organ is a Style D Wurlitzer built in 1927. I am seated at the console in the Avatar. The stop list is:

    PEDAL:
    Bass (Diaphone), 16'
    Bourdon, 16'
    Trumpet, 8'
    Open Diapason, 8'
    Tibia Clausa 8'
    Flute, 8'
    Cello, 8'
    Accompaniment to Pedal
    Solo to Pedal

    ACCOMPANIMENT MANUAL (Choir):
    Contra Viole (Ten. C), 16'
    Vox Humana (Ten. C), 16'
    Trumpet, 8'
    Open Diapason, 8'
    Tibia Clausa 8'
    Salicional, 8'
    Flute, 8'
    Vox Humana, 8'
    Octave, 4'
    Piccolo, 4'
    Salicet, 4'
    Flute, 4'
    Vox Humana, 4'
    Piccolo, 2'
    Chrysoglott
    Triangle
    Tambourine
    SECOND TOUCH
    Trumpet, 8'
    Tibia Clausa, 8'
    Chimes
    Triangle

    SOLO MANUAL (Great):
    Trumpet (Ten. C), 16'
    Bass, 16'
    Tibia Clausa (Ten. C), 16'
    Bourdon, 16'
    Vox Humana (Ten. C), 16'
    Trumpet, 8'
    Open Diapason, 8'
    Tibia Clausa, 8'
    Salicional, 8'
    Flute, 8'
    Vox Humana, 8'
    Octave, 4'
    Piccolo, 4'
    Salicet, 4'
    Flute, 4'
    Twelfth, 2 2/3'
    Piccolo, 2'
    Tierce, 1 3/5'
    Cathedral Chimes
    Glockenspiel
    Chrysoglott
    SECOND TOUCH
    Trumpet, 16'
    Tibia Clausa, 8'

    Five Adjustable Combination Pistons per manual

    The flute stops are open wood changing to open metal in the higher octaves. Otherwise, the pipe work is generally described by the stop name. The 4' Piccolo is somewhat similar to a harmonic flute. The 2' Piccolo is composed of fairly bright open metal pipes. The stops with the same stop name control the same pipes so that it is possible to mix and match combinations without the use of inter-manual couplers.

    The pipe chamber is a former bedroom about 15' by 11' with a 14' ceiling. The chamer shutters are located in an entrance hall. The entrance hall acts as a sound mixing chamber. The sound then goes through an archway into the rest of the house. This tends to "mellow" the sound which could be too intense if experienced directly.

    A short description and pictures are located at
    http://www.hochhalter.com/page23.html
    Hello Allan ,

    Fantastic........ I can Imagine your home reverberating when you play the pedal.....and does it use tracker system to control the pipes?. If Im not mistaken Wurlitzer is a theater organ isn't it?
    Last edited by tittualex; Nov-27-2008 at 07:14.

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    I'm green with envy, Allan, but the fact remains that for most of us it's simply not practical to have the "real thing" (take 14' ceilings for starters!) so a realistic simulation at an affordable price is very, very appealing. By the way, is your Wurly similar to this one, which is supposed to be the very first one imported into the UK?

    http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x64...t-wurlit_music
    Last edited by jhnbrbr; Nov-27-2008 at 19:59.

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    I'm also an Hauptwerkian, but when you think the sound of this movie is great, go and try hauptwerk yourself...in real the sound is much better.

    A complete Hauptwerk hardware setup (when you already have a electronic/digital organ) including buying a real good sampleset comes around 1000/ 1500 euro.

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    With regards to the VPO's ... where do you guys get the manuals and pedals? - using a VPO sounds like a great idea, but in order to get the realistic feel of a pipe organ, surely you'd need a couple of manuals and a pedal board.

    But where do you get them - anyone know?

    Cheers.

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    Aloha Jonesey,

    Check out the links below:

    http://www.classicorgan.com/hauptwerk.htm

    http://www.hoffrichter-organs.co.uk/

    Cheerio,

    CD

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    Quote Originally Posted by jhnbrbr View Post
    I'm green with envy, Allan, but the fact remains that for most of us it's simply not practical to have the "real thing" (take 14' ceilings for starters!) so a realistic simulation at an affordable price is very, very appealing. By the way, is your Wurly similar to this one, which is supposed to be the very first one imported into the UK?

    http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x64...t-wurlit_music
    Yes it is similar. Mine is from somewhat later date of manufacture when the consoles were made with smooth side panels and black cap magnets were used in the chests. It is a theatre organ and uses electro-pneumatic action with an extensive relay and switch system to connect the keys to the pipes.

    The 14' ceiling was obtained by raising the bedroom ceiling (now pipe chamber) up to the house roof line. The house was selected to be suitable for the organ installation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AllanP View Post
    .....The house was selected to be suitable for the organ installation.
    That's true dedication - to choose a house to suit the organ, and not vice-versa! Judging from the photos, it was all done very professionally too.

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    I have the setup that Musicalis has but with one problem. I don't have
    a midi keyboard to add to it yet.
    judy tooley

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