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    [tongue in cheek]

    We could always revoke the decalaration of independance and bring the states back under the British commonwealth

    Just think of the hidden benefits, getting the English language back to normal, all the back taxes that must be owed too. Drive on the left - in smaller cars - that run on petrol or better still diesel, confiscate all guns and apply stricter controls to the legal eagles by learning how to settle differences without violence or expensive litigation. British actors playing british parts in Hollywood would be good too!.

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    LOL !

    How about this idea ? The UK finally gets a Constitution from 'We the People' !!!!!!!!!! The very first in its entire history.

    Don't want to be too controversial, of course !!!!

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    Hey men!!!!

    Here is the evidence from the very recent victim of the US foreign visa policy. And this poor wretch is myself!!!!

    The story is - my wife is a Ph.D. on physics of metals. Field of research : nanostructures. She should have to participate in a TMS conference on nano held THESE DAYS - from 2/01 up to 10/01 on isle of St.Thomas, Virgin Islands, USA. As I have my vacations now, I wanted to go there together with her as an accompanying person.

    Well, ya see, the whole procedure is crazy. If you want to go to Japan or China, you get a visa within 24 hrs. from the moment of application. If you go to Canada or UK, it doesn't take much time as well, and an application is quite a simple thing.

    If you go to US ( and you are, presumably, a foreigner to US ) - you have to make an application - as it now became obvious - much more than two months before your departure date. We made ours on 10th of October!!!

    Then, all your documents will be mailed to USA - the embassy can not issue a visa without a "higher" permission. What do one need to send there ? Everything about the planned trip - where do you go, how long do you stay and where, which places do you plan to visit etc. Julia also had to attach the copies of her scientific papers , planned talk at the conference - imagine that!!!!! It means they have at least to hire a guy there in US who has to check her papers , whether they are a fraud or not - so, logically, they have to hire the experts in each research field of science!!!! Doesn't it look like a paranoia???

    What happenned next - we were waiting for a call from the Embassy for more than two months. On the 30th of December , they have at last contacted us only to inform , that our visas could now be issued - TWO HOURS BEFORE THE EMABASSY WAS CLOSED FOR VACATIONS!!! So the visas will be processed next week now, they need a certain time for it as well - but we have already missed ( and cancelled ) our flight, so we stay now at home having two nice US visas in our passports.

    I should as well mention here , that every visa costs 100 EUR , and this money will be NOT paid back if the visa comes too late!!

    Now, what good is in the fact that we cancelled our flight, what does it bring to the US economy?? 3000 USD ( the flight tickets, hotel reservation, conference charge...) did not go in the country. The conference was somehow important in general, I believe. If all intl. participants get the same problems - no intl. TMS conference in US anymore. Is the US democracy nothing more than mere words, or is it something only for US citizens???

    Why the heck did they need our fingerprints then - if it' s all about terrorism - are we Moslems, are we residents of Iran?

    Now - VERY PERSONAL - @ Krummhorn.

    DEAR LARS!!!!

    I know you love me and you know I love you too. I know you are a very influential person here so me thinks you must have a certain influence in your new pres. Obama administration as well. Can you please call your pres. Obama and tell him Andrew feels very unhappy and wants to go to Virgin Islands????
    You simply tell him Andrew is a good and a friendly guy, and that they give me a visa next time - OKAY !!!! - maybe within two months from application. BUT NOT WITHIN TWO HOURS FROM THE DEPARTURE TIME!!!! And, for my fingerprints - they have it already. I would very unlikely change them !

    Thanks, all the best from Germany ( not from Virgin I..aaaaaaaaaaaa !!! ),

    Andrew
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    Anyone within a few minutes study can see that the Rothschild banking empire are bankers to the world's richest nations and of the world's richest organisation - the Vatican. And have been for centuries.

    'Give me control of a nations money supply and I care not who makes the laws'.
    (Nathan Rothschild)

    And this is stark contrast to the bible teaching against usury -

    "If you lend money to one of my people among you who is needy, do not be like a moneylender; charge him no interest" (Exodus 22:25).


    The USA Federal Reserve System is composed of 12 private and unaccountable banks which regularly create (literally printing) money out of nothing and then lend it to the U.S. government at usury rates of interest. It is in fact the most colossal system of usury and fraud that has ever been invented and runs contrary to the entire Constitutional basis of government.

    The recent bailouts keep the deception going. For a while. They will be repeated - until people begin to suspect they are never ending. This is the equivalent of man who pumps a few litres of gasoline into the tank of your car overnight (for which he sends you the bill with interest) having first stolen your gasoline in the first place ! Thus the bailout money soon becomes the ONLY money in the entire banking system. The rest gone but not discovered by you until everyone realises it. And this explains why the credit situation will never improve regardless of how many 'bailouts' there are.

    On final and inevitable collapse of this system you will be told to welcome with open arms any 'solution' - which will be their new creature - your new, friendly, localised Credit Unions. With rates of interest that are even higher.

    Time for me to think of growing my own carrots and potatoes. LOL !

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    Still believe in party politics ?

    Well, just before the next new President stands on the steps in Washington and swears (as he must) to uphold and defend the great US Constitution, here are a few disturbing quotes -

    ‘We cannot continue to rely on our military in order to achieve the national security objectives we have set. We’ve got to have a civilian national security force that’s just as powerful, just as strong, just as well funded’

    Barack Obama - July 2008

    And then this -

    ‘’ The US Constitution reflected an enormous BLIND SPOT in this culture that carries on until this day. And that the framers had this same BLIND SPOT. I don’t think the two views are contradictory to say that it was a remarkable political document that paved the way for where we are now, and to say that it also reflected the fundamental flaw of this country that continues till this day

    Barack Obama - Chicago Public Radio Interview (2001)

    http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=11OhmY1obS4

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    You are so right. I find God to be a loving but just God. Our heavenly
    Father is like any other parent. He loves us and wants to live right.
    If we disobey sometimes we will suffer the conquencies just like with our
    biological parents who love us.
    judy tooley

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