To clap, or not to clap - Page 2

Mat · Jan-23-2009, 23:11

Amen, Vicki.

Muza · Jan-31-2009, 10:54

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robert Newman

G.F. Handel
Aria, 'Cara Sposa'
Act 1, Scene 7
Opera 'Rinaldo'
Soloist - David Daniels
Bayerisches Staatsorchester
Harry Bicket (Conductor)

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=k3rqm9l3mw0

Thank you for the link, Robert. I have discovered so many new things through your post. What an interesting voice! (If I did not see the performance, I would have never believed it was sung by a man...!!!) and I agree, the performance is very good as well

PS. Clap or not clap...hmm I dont know. I would reserve my clapping till the end...and if you don't know when the end is - just follow the rest!

Andrew Roussak · Jan-31-2009, 14:04

Not to clap, because it obviously distracts the performer. Any piano concerto ( and any other solo performance, for sure ) requires an immense concentration of a soloist. Help him to do his job!

Well, but there is still one thing about the classic concerts I don't understand. Why do not they allow us folks to bring the beer and to whistle after a cool performed solo?

Robert Newman · Jan-31-2009, 14:56

I remember once going to a brilliant concert of Shostakovich (his 15th Symphony) in London where, when the piece ended the audience (which was huge) were in complete silence for almost 30 seconds after it finished. All stunned by the beautiful ending of that work. And then massive applause that lasted for almost quarter of an hour. Those seconds before the applause began were unforgettable in themselves. It was the London Symphony Orchestra.

jhnbrbr · Feb-01-2009, 11:52

Applause can be quite a problem at organ recitals held in churches, especially if (as has been known to happen) the audience is small, and they feel (quite wrongly in my opinion) that they shouldn't clap because they're in a church. For myself, I absolutely hate it if the end of a piece is met with stoney silence, so I usually take it on myself to begin the applause, but it's quite a responibility if you're not familiar with the music, almost to the point where it can stop you enjoying it!

Robert Newman · Feb-01-2009, 13:27

I have heard from several live broadcasts that in parts of Scandinavia audiences to a concert will applaud/clap rythmically, together, and this is very interesting in itself. I don't know if it's true of all Scandinavian audiences.

Krummhorn · Feb-02-2009, 00:41

Quote:

Originally Posted by Andrew Roussak

Not to clap, because it obviously distracts the performer. Any piano concerto ( and any other solo performance, for sure ) requires an immense concentration of a soloist. Help him to do his job!

I quite agree. As a solo performer on organ the erratic applause between quiet movements of an organ piece are rather unnerving - almost breaks my concentration.

Quote:

Originally Posted by jhnbrbr

Applause can be quite a problem at organ recitals held in churches, especially if (as has been known to happen) the audience is small, and they feel (quite wrongly in my opinion) that they shouldn't clap because they're in a church. For myself, I absolutely hate it if the end of a piece is met with stoney silence, so I usually take it on myself to begin the applause, but it's quite a responibility if you're not familiar with the music, almost to the point where it can stop you enjoying it!

I've only encountered the "silent applause" on one occasion - it was at an all black SDA church years ago ... they didn't clap, rather a very loud "Amen" was heard in unison at the end of the piece. At times, I heard "Hallelujah" and "Amen" shouted out loud during the piece ... it was a most strange experience, but the people were very very appreciative of the music I played.

I've not had to initiate the applause ... yet. That would be quite different and yet an awkward situation.

For some programs I play, I request that any applause is held until just before the intermission or at the end of the program ... saves all that bowing and smiling stuff ... For an organ concert, as a performer, I prefer to remain planted on the bench between numbers if at all possible.

Tûrwethiel · Feb-02-2009, 08:43

I agree about the interruptions to a performer's concentration ... horrid. I imagine it would have almost the same effect as a tantrum-throwing toddler whose parents refuse to take him or her out for some quiet time!

Robert, I've heard clapping along during concerts in other parts of the world. Some of Mr Strauss II's more popular works seem to have that effect, the Radetsky March for instance.

Cheers

Vicki

Andrew Roussak · Feb-02-2009, 22:37

A bit more to the topic :

http://www.associatedcontent.com/art...rt.html?cat=33

Ya see guys I was right on it : the beer is not allowed on the classical concerts. A different kind of experience is it, so they say...

marval · Feb-02-2009, 23:51

Hi Andrew,

Thank you for that, it does give a good guide to concert etiquette.

Margaret

jvhldb · Feb-03-2009, 07:26

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tûrwethiel

I agree about the interruptions to a performer's concentration ... horrid. I imagine it would have almost the same effect as a tantrum-throwing toddler whose parents refuse to take him or her out for some quiet time!

Robert, I've heard clapping along during concerts in other parts of the world. Some of Mr Strauss II's more popular works seem to have that effect, the Radetsky March for instance.

Cheers

Vicki

I disagree about the tantrum throwing, in our church the organ gallery is seen as a type of crech for the kids that are considered unsuitable to sit in the church itself, so with enough practice you learn to ignore tantrums and kids using the organ and consol as a jungle gym.

Some members from the Viena Phylarmonic Orgistra held a string workshop at the local music academy last year. At the appropriate times the conductor turned arround and "conducted" the audience in the handclapping.

Robert Newman · Feb-03-2009, 16:20

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tûrwethiel

I agree about the interruptions to a performer's concentration ... horrid. I imagine it would have almost the same effect as a tantrum-throwing toddler whose parents refuse to take him or her out for some quiet time!

Robert, I've heard clapping along during concerts in other parts of the world. Some of Mr Strauss II's more popular works seem to have that effect, the Radetsky March for instance.

Cheers

Vicki

Yes Vicki,

In this case the applause from these Scandinavian audiences comes at the end of the piece but it's synchronised with each member of the audience clapping at the same moment. It was remarkable to hear and I first came across it in a live broadcast from Oslo in Norway on the BBC. Later from other radio broadcasts. It's unusual but nice.

Regards

jassmakeme · Feb-03-2010, 07:35

don't clap! haha just be rude.. jk..
just clap casually and all will be good for one show.

jassmakeme · Feb-03-2010, 07:45

don't clap! haha just be rude.. jk..
just clap casually and all will be good for one show.
there might be some of them that would get angry if you don't clap =)

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dll927 · Feb-03-2010, 15:06

On another tack, it seems common in some churches to applaud the choir at the end of an anthem.

If you watch Crystal Cathedral broadcasts, it happens nearly all the time - but those may be mostly tourists who are there for the "I was there" value. I've also seen it some of the time at the Coral Ridge church, which seems to have disappeared with their rather controversial new pastor.

Should the congregation applaud the choir? ____Yes _____NO

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Andrew Roussak Commodore con Forza Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Karlsruhe, Germany Posts: 591 Images: 2	A bit more to the topic : http://www.associatedcontent.com/art...rt.html?cat=33 Ya see guys I was right on it : the beer is not allowed on the classical concerts. A different kind of experience is it, so they say...

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dll927 Captain of Water Music Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 442	On another tack, it seems common in some churches to applaud the choir at the end of an anthem. If you watch Crystal Cathedral broadcasts, it happens nearly all the time - but those may be mostly tourists who are there for the "I was there" value. I've also seen it some of the time at the Coral Ridge church, which seems to have disappeared with their rather controversial new pastor. Should the congregation applaud the choir? ____Yes _____NO