Content digital organs

[magnum opus]

Hello all,
We've recently acquired a 'Content'digital organ in our church (this is made in Holland). Just wondered if anyone has played on these digital organs and what their experiences have been.

Thanks

[Ntalikeris666]

Hello all,
We've recently acquired a 'Content'digital organ in our church (this is made in Holland). Just wondered if anyone has played on these digital organs and what their experiences have been.

Thanks

I am planning to buy one of them (probably a Mondri 5800)
So i am gonna visit the factory at easter to check them out from upclose.
Tell me something, how much did you buy it and with what specifications (wooden draw stops etc)
could you also describe me the quality of the wood which the organ is made of?


Thanks

Best Wishes
Nicholas

[jmcpher1]

I used to have the Content Organ Expander with 20 Stops which I used through my Yamaha Clavinova and found this to be a very good way of producing a classical pipe organ sound. It had one or two limitations and I was not overly fond of the Principal 8 voice as it was rather insipid for my taste.

When I upgraded to an organ a few years ago I settled on the Wyvern Sonata Mark 1V which has 31 stops based on an English Specification but built with Contents' technology. I far prefer the "English" voicing to the continental voicing. The Diapasons on both swell and great are good rounded diapason sounds and the Lieblich Gedekt 8 combines well with the Gamba 8 and Vox Celeste 8 to produce a lovely etheral string tone which is much smoother than could be produced on the EXL 220 with the Holz Flute8, Gamba 8 and Celeste 8. In fact I was surprized by how good and useful the Lieblich Gedekt 8 is. I had been prejudiced by past experience of this stop in a Father Willis Pipe Organ into thinking that this stop would be of little use. However in the Wyvern it is one of my favourite stops.

In my experience, for what it is worth, I think that the Content/Wyvern voicing is much more smoother and less brash than other digital organs and I certainly get hours of enjoyment from this organ. Indeed, I far prefer my Wyvern Sonata to the Allan Organ I sometimes play in our local church.


Regards

James

[magnum opus]

Thanks for the feedback.
We have a D6800 (a 3 man/ ped drawstop model, with a 4th 'solo' division which is a 'virtual' organ. There's no separate solo manual, but the stops of this division can be activated on I, II or III.

Ours is in a walnut (I think) cabinet. It matches well with the furniture in the sanctuary. The drawstops do not protrude out when pulled...they move very slightly and then settle in a 'mid-way' position and light up when activitated. They are not made in wood in this particular model.

[Ntalikeris666]

Thanks for the feedback.
We have a D6800 (a 3 man/ ped drawstop model, with a 4th 'solo' division which is a 'virtual' organ. There's no separate solo manual, but the stops of this division can be activated on I, II or III.

Ours is in a walnut (I think) cabinet. It matches well with the furniture in the sanctuary. The drawstops do not protrude out when pulled...they move very slightly and then settle in a 'mid-way' position and light up when activitated. They are not made in wood in this particular model.

Can you please tell me how the temperments sound?
Which ones do you use?
Also, how do the reed stops sound (trumpets , Bombardes, etc)

[Ntalikeris666]

I used to have the Content Organ Expander with 20 Stops which I used through my Yamaha Clavinova and found this to be a very good way of producing a classical pipe organ sound. It had one or two limitations and I was not overly fond of the Principal 8 voice as it was rather insipid for my taste.

When I upgraded to an organ a few years ago I settled on the Wyvern Sonata Mark 1V which has 31 stops based on an English Specification but built with Contents' technology. I far prefer the "English" voicing to the continental voicing. The Diapasons on both swell and great are good rounded diapason sounds and the Lieblich Gedekt 8 combines well with the Gamba 8 and Vox Celeste 8 to produce a lovely etheral string tone which is much smoother than could be produced on the EXL 220 with the Holz Flute8, Gamba 8 and Celeste 8. In fact I was surprized by how good and useful the Lieblich Gedekt 8 is. I had been prejudiced by past experience of this stop in a Father Willis Pipe Organ into thinking that this stop would be of little use. However in the Wyvern it is one of my favourite stops.

In my experience, for what it is worth, I think that the Content/Wyvern voicing is much more smoother and less brash than other digital organs and I certainly get hours of enjoyment from this organ. Indeed, I far prefer my Wyvern Sonata to the Allan Organ I sometimes play in our local church.


Regards

James

So, how would you compare a Content organ with a Johannus? Which do you think is better?

Regards,

Nicholas

[Ntalikeris666]

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In my experience, for what it is worth, I think that the Content/Wyvern voicing is much more smoother and less brash than other digital organs and I certainly get hours of enjoyment from this organ. Indeed, I far prefer my Wyvern Sonata to the Allan Organ I sometimes play in our local church.


Regards

James

It seems that content is the same as wyner Right?

[wljmrbill]

Nicholas: I can only state factors regarding the Johannus. I had a 3 manual Church model to play as head-organist for a number of years that was installed in a large Episcopal Church bearing no expense with speakers and installation. I was very pleased with the performance and sounds created ( photo sounding technique) and I had the ability to adjust stops and sounds created with the instrument. I used the instrument for services as well as concert work with a very realistric pipe organ sound and tacker action. I preferred it to an Allen my self. Take Care and Enjoy... Bill

[Ntalikeris666]

Nicholas: I can only state factors regarding the Johannus. I had a 3 manual Church model to play as head-organist for a number of years that was installed in a large Episcopal Church bearing no expense with speakers and installation. I was very pleased with the performance and sounds created ( photo sounding technique) and I had the ability to adjust stops and sounds created with the instrument. I used the instrument for services as well as concert work with a very realistric pipe organ sound and tacker action. I preferred it to an Allen my self. Take Care and Enjoy... Bill

Bill: So, do you remember which johannus model were you playing on?
Have you played on other digital organs?

[Clarion]

It seems that Content is the same as Wyvern Right?
Nicholas

Absolutely not!!

I wasn't aware that Wyvern ever used Content technology; at least not for their higher end organs. Going back about a decade or so, they initially used Bradford Technology; but for the best part of a decade now, they have been using Phoenix Organ technology exclusively for their higher end instruments; and it doesn't get any better than that. Phoenix and Content, Johannus occupy absolute opposite ends of the quality-spectrum.

Phoenix probably offers more sound samples of their instruments than any other manufacturer:

http://www.phoenix-organs.co.uk/audio.html

[Ntalikeris666]

Absolutely not!!

I wasn't aware that Wyvern ever used Content technology; at least not for their higher end organs. Going back about a decade or so, they initially used Bradford Technology; but for the best part of a decade now, they have been using Phoenix Organ technology exclusively for their higher end instruments; and it doesn't get any better than that. Phoenix and Content, Johannus occupy absolute opposite ends of the quality-spectrum.

Phoenix probably offers more sound samples of their instruments than any other manufacturer:

http://www.phoenix-organs.co.uk/audio.html

Indeed Phoenix organs have a really nice sound.
If you had to rate these organs (sound quality)
which would you out in the first 2 places and why?
Johannus or Content?
I wont mention Phoenix because of the price difference.

Thanks for replying,
Best wishes

Nicholas

[Clarion]

Indeed Phoenix organs have a really nice sound. If you had to rate these organs (sound quality) which would you out in the first 2 places and why? Johannus or Content?

I wont mention Phoenix because of the price difference.
Nicholas

That gives rise to an interesting consideration: Which would offer the most rewarding experience? A lavishly appointed Johannus/Content with somewhat less than wonderful sound; or a modestly appointed Phoenix that simply melts you down from the inside out, each an every time you sit down to play it!?

[Ntalikeris666]

That gives rise to an interesting consideration: Which would offer the most rewarding experience? A lavishly appointed Johannus/Content with somewhat less than wonderful sound; or a modestly appointed Phoenix that simply melts you down from the inside out, each an every time you sit down to play it!?

Well, first of all i will have to mention that the cheapest Phoenix organ i have found was a 29 stops tab organ with 23.000$ (which was actually a special offer)... First of all, i live in Europe (Greece) so it is easier for me to visit a european factory like content or Johannus. Then, i dont want an instrument for recitals in the Concert hall, i want it mostly for practice (with the ability to experiment with the registration).
And actually, i really dont know, how much more a Phoenix organ will make me Melt from the inside out compared with a Content, or Johannus instrument. So apart from having the ultimate sound quality, you must also consider the value per Euro you get. For example, a 4 manual rodgers has 180.000 $. With 180.000 i can buy a really nice real pipe organ with 20 ranks that will surely melt my inside outs.
Thats why i only compare Johannus with Content. Even thing.
It is not fair to compare a Johannus with an Allen or Rodgers.
SO, having said that -without of course being sure to what i am finally going to do- i would like to ask you what you personally think about the sound quality between Content and JOhannus. What do you think are the dissadvantages and advantages of each one?
BTW i am visiting Holland at easter so i will have the chance to visit the content factory and inspect the models from upclose.
I am asking you to compare Content with Johannus because i might not have the chance to visit both factories, so that i could compare them myself.

Thanks, Nicholas

[Clarion]

without of course being sure to what i am finally going to do- i would like to ask you what you personally think about the sound quality between Content and JOhannus. What do you think are the dissadvantages and advantages of each one?

Place them both in a bag; give the bag a good shake; then dump them out. It won't matter which one comes out first.

[Ntalikeris666]

Place them both in a bag; give the bag a good shake; then dump them out. It won't matter which one comes out first.

Lol, i think i got it xD