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About LinkBacksThe Dutch will be fighting an uphill battle, with so much of the territory below the sea level. What's the situation like in Denmark? Are most settlements along the coast line? How would a metre of water added to the sea level affect Denmark?
The Dutch will be fighting an uphill battle, with so much of the territory below the sea level. What's the situation like in Denmark? Are most settlements along the coast line? How would a metre of water added to the sea level affect Denmark?
This is interesting - The sea levels are rising and I have a house in Hawaii that is 7 inches above sea level - I ain't seen no rising sea level since I bought the house 17 years ago - Ah yes, more agitation propaganda from the *environment czar* with an office in the West Wing
*If a man wants God to hear his prayer quickly, then before he prays for anything else, even his own soul, when he stands and stretches out his hands towards God, he must pray with all his heart for his enemies. Through this action God will hear everything that he asks* -Abba Zeno-
*Protagoras: "Truth is subjective. What is true for you, and what is true for me, is true for me. Your opinion is true by virtue of its being your opinion."
*Socrates: "My opinion is: Truth is absolute, not opinion, and that you are in absolute error. Since this is my opinion, then according to your philosophy you must grant that it is true."
"Improvisational Art": http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qSxVO3EoCRM
Well, you know, lots of permanent ice cover has been melting lately. Before addressing me as a czar, you need to get in touch with all the researchers:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/20...hange-flooding
Aloha Ouled Nails,
I wasn't referring to you as a Czar but one of the office inhabitants in the White House(not obama).
If all this permanent ice has been melting then why havent I seen a rise in sea levels - If the sea level goes up in the Netherlands then it also goes up in Hawaii. After all, all the worlds oceans are connected.
Cheerio,
CD
*If a man wants God to hear his prayer quickly, then before he prays for anything else, even his own soul, when he stands and stretches out his hands towards God, he must pray with all his heart for his enemies. Through this action God will hear everything that he asks* -Abba Zeno-
*Protagoras: "Truth is subjective. What is true for you, and what is true for me, is true for me. Your opinion is true by virtue of its being your opinion."
*Socrates: "My opinion is: Truth is absolute, not opinion, and that you are in absolute error. Since this is my opinion, then according to your philosophy you must grant that it is true."
"Improvisational Art": http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qSxVO3EoCRM
you're a very fast reader, cd.
Thanx ON - I'm quite curious as to the prognostications emanating from the IPCC, the White House, and other political interest groups and action committee's.
And don't forget the U.S. Geological Society, the British Antarctic Scientists, the Dutch government, IOW, the people who follow this stuff.
Oh no, I don't forget them at all - especially living in such an exposed position as Hawaii.
Well, it ain't quite Bangladesh, is it?
Yeah, but Bangladesh has so many millions more people - They can at least flee inland - we have nowhere to go.
It is surely more than a climatic question. It is basically a philosiphical question. when does one, in the face of all scientific projections and natural occurences, begin to admit that something fundamentally different is happening?
I think that is the question.
An interesting way of framing the question. You mentioned *natural occurences* - Then I must ask: When did the sea level rise? I have lived for 17 years in Hawaii.
Last edited by Corno Dolce; Mar-09-2009 at 04:09.
If you don't mind, while we're here exchanging philosophical free-floating ideas, do you think that the recent Australian disaster was caused by arsonists?
I don't mind at all dear sir. I recall reading some online Australian newspapers that mention of the Police having captured a suspect-at-large. Apparently he has been charged and is awaiting trial. There might be more who are *fingered* in the ongoing investigation.
A good question. Has it risen? Even if we know as a scientific fact that the ice sheets are retreating in Antarctica and Greenland, should it be rising?Originally Posted by Corno Dolce
One thing that I have learned from these scientific prognostications, whether they happen or not, is the fascinating fact that when you kids and your grandchildren and great-grandchildren grow up, if this trend continues, the complete melt down of Greenland ice, in itself, will cause the sea to rise seven metres.
This story is not unlike cigarette related cancer. Prove it, said the tobacco producers. Of course, everybody knows that the odds of lung cancer increase exponentially if you consume this poison. Nevertheless, for legalistic purposes, it must be proven without the shadow of a doubt.
So you need proof. I can appreciate that. And the proof is that ice, lots of it, has been melting; that droughts, unprecedented for the last fifty years, are re-occurring with alarming frequency; that violent and destructive storms have been increasing in frequency; that bushfires, such as in Australia, have expanded in number and in magnitude.
All of this might not be noticeable on your beach but it has been occurring globally. Or, perhaps, you need a ten-year perspective on what has been happening to your surroundings, which is not easy to observe because of how we rapidly normalize change.
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