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    Quote Originally Posted by jason View Post
    ^ That's what makes me sick. Not giving credit to someone who inspired your song (you more or less "stole" it then). I see this a lot in hip-hop and rap. One band that I see this happen with a lot is Led Zeppelin. They never seem to get credit for the many songs who have used Zeppelinesque samples.
    hip hop and rap in my view is not a musical genre,it is a load of rubbish for talentless **** dribblers who steal other peoples sounds and make a total discrace out of it,and become famous out of doing it.....what is the world coming to.........

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    Have you ever seen the "Pachelbel Rant" on iTunes? Not only is it hilarious, but it does an AMAZING job of finding the Pachelbel chord progression in almost everything! I especially appreciate it, given that it has the world's most boring cello part.

    As to the original question, check out the band Renaissance and their "Scheherazade & Other Stories" - aninterpretation of Rimsky-Korsakov's 'epic work, complete with full orchestra . They also did a beautiful, haunting tue built on Bach, but the details elude me just now, and my ex took the album it was on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sybarite View Post
    Ah, good old plaigarism. Still, if it was good enough for Shakespeare and JRR Tolkein...
    Indeed - and where would Disney corporation be without plagerisim, I ask you...

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    I've got one: Presto from the "Summer" concerto by Antonio Vivaldi, interpreted by French heavy metal guitarist Patrick Rondat (the poster on YT incorrectly identifies him as Joe Satriani):
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WO2l7...eature=related

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    Very nice. Thanks for the link. If you've got more of that kind of classical music, feel free to post.
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    From Wikipedia:
    "All by Myself" is a power ballad written and performed by Eric Carmen in 1975. It borrows very heavily from the second movement (Adagio Sostenuto) of Sergei Rachmaninoff's Piano Concerto No. 2 in C minor, Opus 18, which Carmen believed was in the public domain. Having found it was not, only after the record had been issued, Carmen had to come to an agreement with the Rachmaninoff estate.

    I am always amazed at the number of people who assume - oh its classical music, so it must be in the public domain.
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    Has anybody brought up the "Elvira Madigan" theme? I can remember seeing CDs with containers that called that famous movement from Mozart's Piano Conerto #21 the "Elvira Madigan theme", when the disc was the concerto and had nothing to do with the movie. Surely a case of trying to use something "modern" to sell a well-known piece.

    Ah, the world of marketing!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by cambiatagn View Post
    As to the original question, check out the band Renaissance and their "Scheherazade & Other Stories" - aninterpretation of Rimsky-Korsakov's 'epic work, complete with full orchestra . They also did a beautiful, haunting tue built on Bach, but the details elude me just now, and my ex took the album it was on.
    Renaissance also did Albinoni's Adagio as "Cold is Being" , I've got about 6 of their Albums on Vinyl and cassette, also saw them live twice.

    Sky did the Bach Toccata, and a very straight (just skipped a couple of repeats) of Rameau's Gavotte and variations and also one of Satie's Gymnopodie.

    Going back a bit further, Kenny Ball did Fur Elise and a Rondo, even further and Art Tatum did Humeresque back in the 1940s, so plagiarism started well back. Some do it well, others don't.
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    Not sure if it was already said somewhere here in this thread...

    One of the greatest hits of Phil Collins "Groovy Kind Of Love" was recorded in 1988 actually as a film soundtrack. This was a cover version already - the song was composed in 1965 by a British band Wayne Fontana and the Mindbenders.

    And, in turn, the huge melody - the hookline - of the piece is the first 8 bars of Sonatina G dur of Muzio Clementi, 3rd Movement of it, Op 36 N 5. The melody is not even slightly changed, and the original of the piece is seldom mentioned. So , I guess, most of Phil Collins' fans beleive he has himself composed it!
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    Hello, this is my first post on this forum. I think that crossover music is really great way to introduce great classical music to wider masses. I myself have started to compose this kind of music after a lot of soul searching and I would like to introduce my first song
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SCx5PI0Odpc

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    Quote Originally Posted by cambiatagn View Post
    Have you ever seen the "Pachelbel Rant" on iTunes? Not only is it hilarious, but it does an AMAZING job of finding the Pachelbel chord progression in almost everything!
    The Pachelbel Rant is indeed inspired. I doubt that all the performers mentioned as "quoting" the Canon were even aware of the plagiarism: if Green Day, for example, know who Pachelbel is, I'll eat your lunch.

    Since I didn't see it mentioned, I'll add that heavy metal visionaries Spinal Tap quoted Boccherini's "Minuet" just prior to the end of "Heavy Duty Rock and Roll." It was done with the taste and finesse we expect from the band, so you might hardly have noticed it.

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    Pachelbel's canon is the object of a lot of different interpretations by quite a few budding guitarists on youtube. here's a couple of the better ones:
    Matt Rach
    Jerry C
    interesting how such a soothing piece of music can change to something so different!!

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    1978 Scott Fitzgerald & Yvonne Keeley "If I had Words" from Saint Saens 3rd Organ symphony.
    Cheers MIKE.

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    The Instrumentation for Coolio's "I'll See You When You Get There" is also based on Pachebel's Canon. I've heard alot of songs that have part of Canon in them.

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    Jason, I just came across this thread you posted and came away utterly amazed at the painstaking research and time you must have invested in it. Congratulations and well done! I just had a question about one of your citations: namely "Hall Of the Mountain King" as being done by the Who. I had always thought it was another group like King Crimson, Yes or maybe ELP which performed this song but I could be wrong. Anyway, ciao for now and congrats again on a wonderful thread. Looking forward to hearing from you soon, White Knight.

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